From IUWdDPqcXeexXK7r@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Mon Apr 11 14:01:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from superboy.org (h24-69-44-253.sbm.shawcable.net [24.69.44.253]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 162A1BE2D for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] [127.0.0.1] by superboy.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id AB9314B019C; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:01:55 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:01:22 -0700 From: Bjorn Freeman-Benson Organization: Eclipse Foundation Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:59:56 -0400 Subject: [vtp-dev] test X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:01:28 -0000
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From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Apr 29 10:09:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.132]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C3576775F for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3TE8NeE007732 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:08:23 -0400 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id j3TE8NI2357418 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:08:23 -0600 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3TE8Ng5017271 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:08:23 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TE8N43017267 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:08:23 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM(Release 6.0.2CF1|June 9, 2003) at 04/29/2005 10:05:15 AM, Serialize by Notes Client on Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM(Release 6.0.2CF1|June 9, 2003) at 04/29/2005 10:05:15 AM, Serialize complete at 04/29/2005 10:05:15 AM, Itemize by Notes Client on Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM(Release 6.0.2CF1|June 9, 2003) at 04/29/2005 10:05:16 AM, S/MIME Sign complete at 04/29/2005 10:05:16 AM, S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM(Release 6.0.2CF1|June 9, 2003) at 04/29/2005 10:08:06 AM, S/MIME Sign complete at 04/29/2005 10:08:06 AM, Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 04/29/2005 08:08:22, Serialize complete at 04/29/2005 08:08:22 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:08:20 -0600 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=-------z53960_boundary_sign Subject: [vtp-dev] Plugin/Feature naming X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:09:33 -0000 This is an S/MIME signed message. ---------z53960_boundary_sign Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004D62DE85256FF2_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004D62DE85256FF2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I noticed that the feature for the voice tools project says "Eclipse Voice Toolkit" and the provider name for the plugins says IBM Voice Tools. Shouldn't that be Eclipse Voice Tools (Project?) and Eclipse.org, respectively? -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 004D62DE85256FF2_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I noticed that the feature for the voice tools project says "Eclipse Voice Toolkit" and the provider name for the plugins says IBM Voice Tools. Shouldn't that be Eclipse Voice Tools (Project?) and Eclipse.org, respectively?

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Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
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(8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id j5SIckj4312984 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:38:46 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5SIckCM020089 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:38:46 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIckVt020086; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:38:46 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:38:45 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 06/28/2005 12:38:46 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_mixed 006656C18525702E_=" Cc: hk/TU48oK2tZDjIh@btNbzciobJjjguMf, APSg0n7NDk3fJX5+@btNbzciobJjjguMf, Harry_KEQto/6hLCEoHE4J@GLgJcpCfn6sdeSuS, Mnerz8FvC6bErE7/@jcCkEVMAIGCjEKYL Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project feature wishlist X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:54:14 -0000 --=_mixed 006656C18525702E_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006656C18525702E_=" --=_alternative 006656C18525702E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Everyone, Thanks to everyone who participated in our call this morning. I hope it gave everyone a clearer perspective on what the state of the project is and where it needs your help. For those who were unable to make it I took some notes and will post them to the Voice Tools Project newsgroup (news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.voicetools) in the next day or so. Per our discussion earlier today here is a simple spreadsheet of proposed features that could be put into an initial release's project plan for the Voice Tools Project. I kept my contributions to the list relatively modest to leave a lot of room for fresh perspectives. Add any additional function you believe should be in an initial release and a column identifying you with X's for which functions you would like to see prioritized. When you've made your changes just post it back to the list. I would strongly encourage you to think from both the perspective of users using the tools and companies extending the tools for their own products when considering what you would like to see. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006656C18525702E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi Everyone,

Thanks to everyone who participated in our call this morning. I hope it gave everyone a clearer perspective on what the state of the project is and where it needs your help. For those who were unable to make it I took some notes and will post them to the Voice Tools Project newsgroup (news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.voicetools) in the next day or so.

Per our discussion earlier today here is a simple spreadsheet of proposed features that could be put into an initial release's project plan for the Voice Tools Project. I kept my contributions to the list relatively modest to leave a lot of room for fresh perspectives. Add any additional function you believe should be in an initial release and a column identifying you with X's for which functions you would like to see prioritized. When you've made your changes just post it back to the list. I would strongly encourage you to think from both the perspective of users using the tools and companies extending the tools for their own products when considering what you would like to see.



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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
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Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:21:20 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:21:18 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 06/28/2005 15:21:19, Serialize complete at 06/28/2005 15:21:19 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0075411A8525702E_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project Development Call Minutes: June 28, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:09:34 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0075411A8525702E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, Hope I got everyone's name right. If I didn't please drop me a note and let me know. Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes June 28, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Ross Yakulis, Avaya Jason Tepper, Audium Jeff Fried, Empirix Tumi Chen, Empirix Frederic Gloppe, HP Brent Metz, IBM Jeff Kobal, IBM Frank Sauer, IBM Ian Sutherland, Oracle Brian Marquette, Sandcherry Harry Chang, SBC Jayant Thomas, SBC Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Michael ???, VoiceObjects Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie The call began with Brent Metz leading a discussion of the problems the Voice Tools Project aims to address; duplication in effort in industry, lack of common extension points between tooling vendors, and lack of a powerful set of open source tools. Brent then proceeded into a discussion of the Eclipse Development Process. Callers were encouraged to look at the Eclipse Development Process PDF on eclipse.org. Many concepts such as the phases of development and the means by which companies contribute code and resources to an Eclipse project were discussed. It was asked if it would be possible to take the existing IBM contribution and create a project plan around productizing that contribution. The response was that only releasing with IBM's contribution could create the perception of an 'IBM Toolkit' as opposed to a community effort. It was stated by another caller that releasing the existing contribution would be alright for an initial release. It was noted that the existing contribution had not received a lot of public feedback and that more feedback was needed in order to know where to focus. Frederic from HP stated a willingness to contribute to the project. An interest in the development of graphical tools was stated. It was also stated that tools to handle call path generation and other testing tools would be welcomed. A summary of the state of the IBM contribution and its feature sets was presented. It was asked whether or not the existing contribution could handle debugging of an application. It was stated that the contribution could, to the extent that the underlying Eclipse and Web Tools editor functionality already supported the plugging in of a set of code to implement the Eclipse debugging APIs. VoiceXML Debugger functionality was cited as something that would be helpful to see in the Voice Tools Project. Logging and Analysis tools were also proposed as good tools to include in an initial release. The 'chicken and egg' problem of building a project plan based upon resources which may not be committed until a plan is available was discussed. It was proposed that a list of features be circulated to the vtp-dev mailing list for each participant to 'vote' for the features they would like to see. It was proposed that the list would then be prioritized and volunteers to develop portions that emerge as most wanted would be solicited. The call ended at 11:55am EST. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0075411A8525702E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

Hope I got everyone's name right. If I didn't please drop me a note and let me know.

Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes
 
June 28, 2005, 11am EST
 
Attendees:
Ross Yakulis, Avaya
Jason Tepper, Audium
Jeff Fried, Empirix
Tumi Chen, Empirix
Frederic Gloppe, HP
Brent Metz, IBM
Jeff Kobal, IBM
Frank Sauer, IBM
Ian Sutherland, Oracle
Brian Marquette, Sandcherry
Harry Chang, SBC
Jayant Thomas, SBC
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe
Michael ???, VoiceObjects
Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie

 

The call began with Brent Metz leading a discussion of the problems the Voice Tools Project aims to address;
duplication in effort in industry, lack of common extension points between tooling vendors,
and lack of a powerful set of open source tools.

 
Brent then proceeded into a discussion of the Eclipse Development Process. Callers were encouraged to
look at the Eclipse Development Process PDF on eclipse.org. Many concepts such as the phases of development
and the means by which companies contribute code and resources to an Eclipse project were discussed.

 
It was asked if it would be possible to take the existing IBM contribution and create a project plan around
productizing that contribution. The response was that only releasing with IBM's contribution could create the
perception of an 'IBM Toolkit' as opposed to a community effort. It was stated by another caller that releasing
the existing contribution would be alright for an initial release.

 
It was noted that the existing contribution had not received a lot of public feedback and that more feedback was
needed in order to know where to focus. Frederic from HP stated a willingness to contribute to the project.

 
An interest in the development of graphical tools was stated. It was also stated that tools to handle call path
generation and other testing tools would be welcomed.

 
A summary of the state of the IBM contribution and its feature sets was presented. It was asked whether or not the
existing contribution could handle debugging of an application. It was stated that the contribution could, to the
extent that the underlying Eclipse and Web Tools editor functionality already supported the plugging in of a set
of code to implement the Eclipse debugging APIs. VoiceXML Debugger functionality was cited as something that would be
helpful to see in the Voice Tools Project.

 
Logging and Analysis tools were also proposed as good tools to include in an initial release.
 
The 'chicken and egg' problem of building a project plan based upon resources which may not be committed until a
plan is available was discussed. It was proposed that a list of features be circulated to the vtp-dev mailing list
for each participant to 'vote' for the features they would like to see. It was proposed that the list would then be
prioritized and volunteers to develop portions that emerge as most wanted would be solicited.

 
The call ended at 11:55am EST.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0075411A8525702E_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Jul 4 14:23:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.129]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 337086CB74 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j64INu8D348434 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:23:56 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id j64INucC167858 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:23:56 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j64INtlL013399 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:23:55 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64INtPK013393 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:23:55 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:23:54 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/04/2005 12:23:55 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_mixed 0065347085257034_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 5 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:23:56 -0000 --=_mixed 0065347085257034_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0065347085257034_=" --=_alternative 0065347085257034_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Project plan scope 3) Development contributions 4) SpeechTEK activities -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0065347085257034_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Tuesday, July 5, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Project plan scope
3) Development contributions
4) SpeechTEK activities




--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
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IDAEXG12.emea.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:20:46 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5816C.BBCE79C7" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project feature wishlist Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:20:43 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project feature wishlist Thread-Index: AcV8Et8Eq82xYIYUR+2b/xrVv9deygFV7KMg From: "Gloppe, Frederic" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2005 14:20:46.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC27C060:01C5816C] Cc: Mnerz8FvC6bErE7/@jcCkEVMAIGCjEKYL, hk/TU48oK2tZDjIh@btNbzciobJjjguMf, Harry_KEQto/6hLCEoHE4J@GLgJcpCfn6sdeSuS, APSg0n7NDk3fJX5+@btNbzciobJjjguMf X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:20:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5816C.BBCE79C7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C5816C.BBCE79C7" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C5816C.BBCE79C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 First, Thanks Brent. I hope we will be able to progress on this project very soon. I don't know if I am a chicken or an egg but here is the whislist updated with the features I would like to see in the first release. I add a comment for the feature that could see HP as the main contributor. =20 I will not be able to attend the phone conf today nor the next two weeks but Brent I think you are aware of my position and when we can contribute. =20 Best regards, Frederic -- HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement =20 ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:39 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Cc: hk/TU48oK2tZDjIh@btNbzciobJjjguMf; APSg0n7NDk3fJX5+@btNbzciobJjjguMf; Harry_KEQto/6hLCEoHE4J@GLgJcpCfn6sdeSuS; Mnerz8FvC6bErE7/@jcCkEVMAIGCjEKYL Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project feature wishlist =09 =09 Hi Everyone,=20 =09 Thanks to everyone who participated in our call this morning. I hope it gave everyone a clearer perspective on what the state of the project is and where it needs your help. For those who were unable to make it I took some notes and will post them to the Voice Tools Project newsgroup (news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.voicetools) in the next day or so.=20 =09 Per our discussion earlier today here is a simple spreadsheet of proposed features that could be put into an initial release's project plan for the Voice Tools Project. I kept my contributions to the list relatively modest to leave a lot of room for fresh perspectives. Add any additional function you believe should be in an initial release and a column identifying you with X's for which functions you would like to see prioritized. When you've made your changes just post it back to the list. I would strongly encourage you to think from both the perspective of users using the tools and companies extending the tools for their own products when considering what you would like to see.=20 =09 =09 =09 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_002_01C5816C.BBCE79C7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
First, Thanks Brent. I hope we will be able to = progress on=20 this project very soon.
I don't know if I am a chicken or an egg but = here is the=20 whislist updated with the features I would like to see in the first = release. I=20 add a comment for the feature that could see HP as the main=20 contributor.
 
I will not be able to attend the phone conf = today nor the=20 next two weeks but Brent I think you are aware of my position and when = we can=20 contribute.
 
Best regards,
Frederic
--
HP OpenCall Partner and developer=20 enablement
 


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
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Subject: = [vtp-dev]=20 Voice Tools Project feature wishlist


Hi Everyone, =

Thanks to everyone who participated in our = call this=20 morning. I hope it gave everyone a clearer perspective on what the = state of=20 the project is and where it needs your help. For those who were unable = to make=20 it I took some notes and will post them to the Voice Tools Project = newsgroup=20 (news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.voicetools) in the next = day or=20 so.

Per our discussion = earlier=20 today here is a simple spreadsheet of proposed features that could be = put into=20 an initial release's project plan for the Voice Tools Project. I kept = my=20 contributions to the list relatively modest to leave a lot of room for = fresh=20 perspectives. Add any additional function you believe should be in an = initial=20 release and a column identifying you with X's for which functions you = would=20 like to see prioritized. When you've made your changes just post it = back to=20 the list. I would strongly encourage you to think from both the = perspective of=20 users using the tools and companies extending the tools for their own = products=20 when considering what you would like to see.



--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice = Tools
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D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/05/2005 09:48:34, Serialize complete at 07/05/2005 09:48:34 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0056CDD785257035_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project Development Call Minutes: July 5, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:48:45 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0056CDD785257035_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes July 5, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Brent Metz, IBM Derek Dalrymple, Oracle Brian Marquette, SandCherry Alan, SandCherry Jeff, SandCherry Michael Gill, VoiceObjects The call began with an overview of the week's progress on raising awareness of the Voice Tools Project, notably the development of an article featured on www.voicexmlreview.org and the continued progress on a presentation at SpeechTEK. The callers were asked to give their insight into how they are looking to contribute and what they are looking to be able to take advantage of from the project. One participant stated an interest in the Voice Tools Project's Simulator, Design Editor, and Code Editor planned functionality. Another stated an interest in donating a contribution of functionality in the early fall timeframe. Another participant cited an interest as a company in focusing on high-level design and was interested in following the Voice Tools Project's XML editors to consider creating a tool set from them. The call ended with a brief discussion of possible extension points to interoperate between an open voice tools platform and any third party commercial plugins that interacted with it. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0056CDD785257035_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

July 5, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent Metz, IBM
Derek Dalrymple, Oracle
Brian Marquette, SandCherry
Alan, SandCherry
Jeff, SandCherry
Michael Gill, VoiceObjects


The call began with an overview of the week's progress on raising awareness of the Voice Tools Project,
notably the development of an article featured on www.voicexmlreview.org and the continued progress on a
presentation at SpeechTEK.

The callers were asked to give their insight into how they are looking to contribute and what they are
looking to be able to take advantage of from the project.

One participant stated an interest in the Voice Tools Project's Simulator, Design Editor, and Code Editor
planned functionality. Another stated an interest in donating a contribution of functionality in the
early fall timeframe. Another participant cited an interest as a company in focusing on high-level design
and was interested in following the Voice Tools Project's XML editors to consider creating a tool set
from them.

The call ended with a brief discussion of possible extension points to interoperate between an open
voice tools platform and any third party commercial plugins that interacted with it.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0056CDD785257035_=-- From TwLlXXB2wMQanKsv@rehTLm/3T16yNYN0 Tue Jul 5 19:39:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D5AC66F08 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j65NaosO016060 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CAQ010AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h148-147-57-33.avaya.com [148.147.57.33]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j65NansO016037 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:36:49 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C581BA.C3F1AA65" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project feature wishlist Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:39:20 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project feature wishlist Thread-Index: AcV8EvqzLzTOP0VoTYe6ROhr/zV21wAMOtKA From: "Yakulis, Ross (Ross)" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Cc: Mnerz8FvC6bErE7/@jcCkEVMAIGCjEKYL, hk/TU48oK2tZDjIh@btNbzciobJjjguMf, Harry_KEQto/6hLCEoHE4J@GLgJcpCfn6sdeSuS, APSg0n7NDk3fJX5+@btNbzciobJjjguMf X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:39:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C581BA.C3F1AA65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I mainly have 2 comments, =20 First, if the is targeted at "IRV" folks, I would think that we would = want to move in a direction that abstracts VXML, CCXML and GRXML. Allow application builders to deal in = the logical and not the specifics of a particular xml language. I posted a comment to this effect some time ago on the = eclipse.technology.voicetools news group. Debugging VXML is awful and painful. =20 =20 Second, at present the existing tools are independent plugins (that is = my understanding). It seems that there is a need for a "project" = concept for the tools to fit into to allow the tools to integrate and = work together. If I were writing ccxml and I wanted to invoke a vxml = dialog you would be nice if there was a pre-populated list of available = dialogs and etc. Not a great example but illustrates the point. As you abstract from the markup this becomes more necessary. Some = tools will likely be adjunct views that will be opened=20 when needed in a particular perspective, though it seems other views, = especially ones use in creating an application=20 would best be grouped into a perspective that worked on a project with a = particular nature. =20 Ross =20 -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]On = Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:39 AM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Cc: hk/TU48oK2tZDjIh@btNbzciobJjjguMf; APSg0n7NDk3fJX5+@btNbzciobJjjguMf; Harry_KEQto/6hLCEoHE4J@GLgJcpCfn6sdeSuS; = Mnerz8FvC6bErE7/@jcCkEVMAIGCjEKYL Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project feature wishlist Hi Everyone,=20 Thanks to everyone who participated in our call this morning. I hope it = gave everyone a clearer perspective on what the state of the project is = and where it needs your help. For those who were unable to make it I = took some notes and will post them to the Voice Tools Project newsgroup = (news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.voicetools) in the next day = or so.=20 Per our discussion earlier today here is a simple spreadsheet of = proposed features that could be put into an initial release's project = plan for the Voice Tools Project. I kept my contributions to the list = relatively modest to leave a lot of room for fresh perspectives. Add any = additional function you believe should be in an initial release and a = column identifying you with X's for which functions you would like to = see prioritized. When you've made your changes just post it back to the = list. I would strongly encourage you to think from both the perspective = of users using the tools and companies extending the tools for their own = products when considering what you would like to see.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." = - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C581BA.C3F1AA65 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 mainly have 2 comments,
 
First,=20 if the is targeted at "IRV" folks, I would think that we would want to = move in a=20 direction that
abstracts VXML, CCXML and GRXML.  Allow application = builders to deal=20 in the logical and not the specifics of a particular
xml=20 language.   I posted a comment to this effect = some time ago=20 on the eclipse.technology.voicetools news=20 group.
Debugging VXML is awful and painful.  =  
 
Second, at present the existing tools are independent plugins = (that is my=20 understanding).  It seems that there is a need for a "project" = concept=20 for the tools to fit into to allow the tools to integrate and = work=20 together.  If I were writing ccxml and I wanted to invoke a vxml = dialog=20 you would be nice if there was a pre-populated list of = available dialogs=20 and etc.  Not a great example but illustrates the=20 point.
As you=20 abstract from the markup this becomes more necessary.   Some = tools=20 will likely be adjunct views that will be opened
when=20 needed in a particular perspective, though it seems other views, = especially ones=20 use in creating an application
would=20 best be grouped into a perspective that worked on a project with a = particular=20 nature.
 
Ross
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:39 AM
To:=20 UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Cc: hk/TU48oK2tZDjIh@btNbzciobJjjguMf; APSg0n7NDk3fJX5+@btNbzciobJjjguMf;=20 Harry_KEQto/6hLCEoHE4J@GLgJcpCfn6sdeSuS; Mnerz8FvC6bErE7/@jcCkEVMAIGCjEKYL
Subject: = [vtp-dev]=20 Voice Tools Project feature wishlist


Hi Everyone,

Thanks to everyone who participated in our call this morning. = I hope it=20 gave everyone a clearer perspective on what the state of the project = is and=20 where it needs your help. For those who were unable to make it I took = some=20 notes and will post them to the Voice Tools Project newsgroup=20 (news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.voicetools) in the next = day or=20 so.

Per our discussion = earlier=20 today here is a simple spreadsheet of proposed features that could be = put into=20 an initial release's project plan for the Voice Tools Project. I kept = my=20 contributions to the list relatively modest to leave a lot of room for = fresh=20 perspectives. Add any additional function you believe should be in an = initial=20 release and a column identifying you with X's for which functions you = would=20 like to see prioritized. When you've made your changes just post it = back to=20 the list. I would strongly encourage you to think from both the = perspective of=20 users using the tools and companies extending the tools for their own = products=20 when considering what you would like to see.



--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice = Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and = complex=20 things should be possible." - Alan = Kay
------_=_NextPart_001_01C581BA.C3F1AA65-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Jul 11 17:09:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.131]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72C4E6CE92 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6BL9Ynf567534 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:09:34 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id j6BL9Xd5248232 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:09:33 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6BL9XF6028305 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:09:33 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BL9Xsk028297 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:09:33 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:09:30 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/11/2005 15:09:32, Serialize complete at 07/11/2005 15:09:32 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0073F7C98525703B_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:09:35 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0073F7C98525703B_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Project plan 3) Development contributions 4) SpeechTEK meet-up -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0073F7C98525703B_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Tuesday, July 12, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Project plan
3) Development contributions
4) SpeechTEK meet-up

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0073F7C98525703B_=-- From P/9NKKxBiIWcAYpt@VahpCHvnB1o/swqR Tue Jul 12 09:15:45 2005 Return-Path:

X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78DCDBDF6 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com (zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com [47.140.202.51]) by zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id j6CDFiS01101 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:15:44 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C586E3.CEE28EA0" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:15:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4ED8BBA17FC7DA41A34E1B0975DEC98C030A39CA@zrtphxm2> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Thread-Index: AcWGXNywY7PnZYZKQUSxm1ukBd/F+gAhi0Aw From: "John Muller"

To: "Voice Tools general developers" , "John Muller"

Cc: X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:15:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C586E3.CEE28EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brent, =20 This call conflicts with the Voice Working Group VXML Call (hour 1 10a-11a est, hour 2 11-12a est ). Is it possible to change the meeting time? =20 =20 jsm =20 -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:10 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call =09 =09 Hello,=20 =09 This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:=20 =09 Tuesday, July 12, 2005=20 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)=20 Duration: 1 hour=20 Dial-in numbers: =20 866-650-8398 (toll free within US)=20 210-516-7928 (toll call within US)=20 Passcode: 4075904=20 =09 Proposed Agenda:=20 =09 1) Roll call=20 2) Project plan=20 3) Development contributions=20 4) SpeechTEK meet-up=20 =09 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C586E3.CEE28EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Brent,
 
This=20 call conflicts with the Voice Working Group VXML Call (hour 1 10a-11a = est, hour=20 2 11-12a est ).  Is it possible to change the meeting time? =20
 
jsm
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On = Behalf=20 Of Brent D Metz
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:10=20 PM
To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject: [vtp-dev] = REMINDER: 12=20 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development = Call


Hello,

This=20 is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will = take=20 place on:

Tuesday, = July 12,=20 2005
11:00am ET=20  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
 =20  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within = US)=20
Passcode: 4075904 =

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) = Project=20 plan
3) Development=20 contributions
4) SpeechTEK = meet-up

--
Brent D. = Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things = should=20 be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan=20 Kay
=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C586E3.CEE28EA0-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jul 12 09:30:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.132]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29B63100C8 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6CDU0kF496428 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:30:00 -0400 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id j6CDU0vb239026 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:30:00 -0600 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6CDU0Rw007706 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:30:00 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6CDTxSx007703 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:59 -0600 In-Reply-To: <4ED8BBA17FC7DA41A34E1B0975DEC98C030A39CA@zrtphxm2> To: Voice Tools general developers MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:29:53 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/12/2005 07:29:59, Serialize complete at 07/12/2005 07:29:59 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00498AA58525703C_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:30:12 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00498AA58525703C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Absolutely. To accomodate people on the west coast of the US and Europe I would like to keep the time at 11-Noon EST, but the day is flexible. The VoiceXML Forum's Tools subcommittee meets on Wednesday from 11-Noon so Monday, Thursday, or Friday would be best. Are any of these days a problem to anyone else? Many people are signed up for the digest version of this mailing list so in order to reduce confusion I will continue with today's call as previously announced. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "John Muller"

Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 07/12/2005 09:15 AM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" , "John Muller"

cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Brent, This call conflicts with the Voice Working Group VXML Call (hour 1 10a-11a est, hour 2 11-12a est ). Is it possible to change the meeting time? jsm -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:10 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Project plan 3) Development contributions 4) SpeechTEK meet-up -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 00498AA58525703C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Absolutely. To accomodate people on the west coast of the US and Europe I would like to keep the time at 11-Noon EST, but the day is flexible. The VoiceXML Forum's Tools subcommittee meets on Wednesday from 11-Noon so Monday, Thursday, or Friday would be best. Are any of these days a problem to anyone else?

Many people are signed up for the digest version of this mailing list so in order to reduce confusion I will continue with today's call as previously announced.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



"John Muller" <P/9NKKxBiIWcAYpt@VahpCHvnB1o/swqR>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

07/12/2005 09:15 AM
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Voice Tools general developers

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Brent,
 
This call conflicts with the Voice Working Group VXML Call (hour 1 10a-11a est, hour 2 11-12a est ).  Is it possible to change the meeting time?  
 
jsm
 
-----Original Message-----
From:
mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent:
Monday, July 11, 2005 5:10 PM
To:
UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject:
[vtp-dev] REMINDER: 12 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call


Hello,


This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Tuesday, July 12, 2005

11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Project plan

3) Development contributions

4) SpeechTEK meet-up


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
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--=_alternative 00498AA58525703C_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jul 12 15:20:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.132]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23BC0BE02 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:20:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6CJKWfj460324 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:20:32 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id j6CJKWvb253344 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:20:32 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6CJKVhW025002 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:20:32 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6CJKQRj024395 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:20:27 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:20:17 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/12/2005 13:20:26, Serialize complete at 07/12/2005 13:20:26 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006A0CE88525703C_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project Development Call Minutes: July 12, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:20:33 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006A0CE88525703C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes July 12, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: David Varnes Joe Oh, Audium Jeff Fried, Empirix Brent D. Metz, IBM Lenora Wright, IBM Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry John Buttitto, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie The call began with a summary of the week's efforts, notably the completion of the Eclipse Voice Tools Project's SpeechTEK presentation. The presentation was offered to anyone who is interested in seeing it ahead of time to help communicate the project. A face-to-face meeting during SpeechTEK was discussed. The project's scope and the initial project plan was discussed. Due to the overwhelming interest in standards-based markup editing, Brent stated that the project plan would focus on markup editors as the primary focus of the initial 1.0 project plan. SISR/ECMAScript validation and content assist were brought up as examples of additional innovation that is possible in the markup editors. Other examples for markup-oriented tooling included HP's contributions of wizards and schema support or grammar format (ABNF <-> XML) converters. The point was raised that several implementations differ in what they consider to be legal syntax. It was agreed to follow up offline with some examples. It was stated that implementations which required violations of the standards would not be accomodated. Callers not on last week's call were asked about their position on contributing to the project and what they were interested in seeing in the project's initial release. One participant stated an interest in contributing annotation tooling, testing resources and test fixtures to make testing of the standard markup possible. A discussion of working on a joint article on how to extend or contribute to the Voice Tools Project source tree occured. Several participants expressed interest in creating the article, which would be published on IBM's developerWorks web site. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006A0CE88525703C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes
 
July 12, 2005, 11am EST
 
Attendees:
 
David Varnes
Joe Oh, Audium
Jeff Fried, Empirix
Brent D. Metz, IBM
Lenora Wright, IBM
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
John Buttitto, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe
Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie

 
The call began with a summary of the week's efforts, notably the completion of the Eclipse Voice Tools Project's
SpeechTEK presentation. The presentation was offered to anyone who is interested in seeing it ahead of time to
help communicate the project. A face-to-face meeting during SpeechTEK was discussed.

 
The project's scope and the initial project plan was discussed. Due to the overwhelming interest in standards-based markup
editing, Brent stated that the project plan would focus on markup editors as the primary focus of the initial 1.0 project plan.
SISR/ECMAScript validation and content assist were brought up as examples of additional innovation that is possible in the
markup editors. Other examples for markup-oriented tooling included HP's contributions of wizards and schema support
or grammar format (ABNF <-> XML) converters.

 
The point was raised that several implementations differ in what they consider to be legal syntax. It was agreed to follow up
offline with some examples. It was stated that implementations which required violations of the standards would not be
accomodated.

 
Callers not on last week's call were asked about their position on contributing to the project and what they were interested
in seeing in the project's initial release. One participant stated an interest in contributing annotation tooling, testing resources
and test fixtures to make testing of the standard markup possible.

 
A discussion of working on a joint article on how to extend or contribute to the Voice Tools Project source tree occured. Several
participants expressed interest in creating the article, which would be published on IBM's developerWorks web site.


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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay

--=_alternative 006A0CE88525703C_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Jul 13 10:32:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.131]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D5EB67FA2 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6DEVsRu307368 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:31:55 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id j6DEVsSl265400 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:31:54 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6DEVsLg006030 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:31:54 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6DEVsAW006025 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:31:54 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:31:47 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/13/2005 08:31:53, Serialize complete at 07/13/2005 08:31:53 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004F9BFE8525703D_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Refactor of UI elements X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:32:01 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004F9BFE8525703D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" FYI, I created a new plugin org.eclipse.vtp.ui to contain all common UI elements and to get it started I moved in and renamed our preference and new file wizard categories to org.eclipse.vtp.preferences and org.eclipse.vtp.wizard.new, respectively. Previously they were embedded in the XML catalog and common base XML editor plugins. In the future any common UI elements should go in this plugin. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 004F9BFE8525703D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
FYI,

I created a new plugin org.eclipse.vtp.ui to contain all common UI elements and to get it started I moved in and renamed our preference and new file wizard categories to org.eclipse.vtp.preferences and org.eclipse.vtp.wizard.new, respectively. Previously they were embedded in the XML catalog and common base XML editor plugins. In the future any common UI elements should go in this plugin.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 004F9BFE8525703D_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Jul 18 15:26:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41203B803 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6IJQ32a173848 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:26:03 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j6IJQ3uY433776 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:03 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6IJQ3f1015988 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:03 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6IJQ3Vu015984; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:03 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:26:02 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/18/2005 13:26:02, Serialize complete at 07/18/2005 13:26:02 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006A6D6C85257042_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 19 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:26:05 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006A6D6C85257042_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Development status update 2) Contribution article feedback 3) Project plan featureset discussion Please note that the call will be changing days once a day all committers can attend is confirmed. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006A6D6C85257042_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Tuesday, July 19, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Development status update
2) Contribution article feedback
3) Project plan featureset discussion

Please note that the call will be changing days once a day all committers can attend is confirmed.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 006A6D6C85257042_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jul 19 12:15:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CBC0103A2 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6JGEl2a652002 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:14:49 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j6JGElBu381972 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:14:47 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6JGElUU021734 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:14:47 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JGElAA021723 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:14:47 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3|January 11, 2005) at 07/19/2005 10:14:46, Serialize complete at 07/19/2005 10:14:46 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0069B77188257043_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project Development Call Minutes: July 19, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:15:05 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:14:44 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:15:05 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0069B77188257043_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes July 19, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Brent D. Metz, IBM Lenora Wright, IBM Al Haddock, SandCherry Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie The call began with a summary of the week's efforts, notably the construction of an article to introduce how a developer can download the voice tools source code and make a simple change. A discussion of what would be a good change to make occured. One vendor's proprietary extensions were discussed as a possible good example to incorporate. It was agreed to follow up offline. The construction of a server audio transcription tool was discussed. It was noted that multiple contributers were willing to contribute to the effort. Brent noted that by building a pluggable data source system each participant could contribute the server interfaces they needed. For example, SBC could contribute a ScanSoft engine log interface and IBM could contribute an IBM engine log interface. The discussion concluded with an August timeframe to determine what shape an initial contribution in this space would take. A face-to-face meeting during SpeechTEK was discussed. It was proposed that interested parties meet immediately following the New Initiatives Session on Tuesday, August 2 at approximately 5:30. Several callers mentioned that their companies would be present at the show. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0069B77188257043_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes
 
July 19, 2005, 11am EST
 
Attendees:
 
Brent D. Metz, IBM
Lenora Wright, IBM
Al Haddock, SandCherry
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe
Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie

 
The call began with a summary of the week's efforts, notably the construction of an
article to introduce how a developer can download the voice tools source code and make
a simple change. A discussion of what would be a good change to make occured. One vendor's
proprietary extensions were discussed as a possible good example to incorporate. It was agreed

to follow up offline.
 
The construction of a server audio transcription tool was discussed. It was noted that
multiple contributers were willing to contribute to the effort. Brent noted that by
building a pluggable data source system each participant could contribute the
server interfaces they needed. For example, SBC could contribute a ScanSoft engine log
interface and IBM could contribute an IBM engine log interface. The discussion concluded
with an August timeframe to determine what shape an initial contribution in this space
would take.

 
A face-to-face meeting during SpeechTEK was discussed. It was proposed that interested
parties meet immediately following the New Initiatives Session on Tuesday, August 2 at
approximately 5:30. Several callers mentioned that their companies would be present at
the show.


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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0069B77188257043_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Jul 25 16:19:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.132]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E22129B95A for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6PKJeRX361874 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:19:41 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j6PKJdNT111634 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:19:39 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6PKJbN6027519 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:19:37 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6PKJb05027511; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:19:37 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:19:36 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 07/25/2005 14:19:40, Serialize complete at 07/25/2005 14:19:40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 008022EA88257049_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 28 July Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:19:42 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 008022EA88257049_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, Note the new time! In order to accomodate callers of the Voice Browser Working Group the call is being moved to Thursdays. This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of draft project/milestone plans 3) Development contribution status 4) SpeechTEK meeting and discussion points -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 008022EA88257049_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

Note the new time! In order to accomodate callers of the Voice Browser Working Group the call is being moved to Thursdays.

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, July 28, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of draft project/milestone plans
3) Development contribution status
4) SpeechTEK meeting and discussion points

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 008022EA88257049_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Jul 28 15:31:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.129]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBB0CA246D for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6SJVbIY470470 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:31:37 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j6SJVeb4092732 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:31:40 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6SJVQW7006908 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:31:27 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6SJVQSl006597 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:31:26 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:31:16 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 07/28/2005 13:31:34, Serialize complete at 07/28/2005 13:31:34 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 002950D38525704D_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project Development Call Minutes: July 28, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 002950D38525704D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Note: Due to the SpeechTEK conference no call will take place next week. The next call is scheduled for Thursday, August 11. Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes July 28, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Brent D. Metz, IBM Lenora Wright, IBM John Muller, Nortel Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie Michael Gill, VoiceObjects The discussion began with a recap of the week's events. An article on contributing to the Voice Tools Project was submitted to the editors at developerWorks and should be available publicly in a few weeks, but was offered in Word document form to anyone who wanted to look at it. The project plan was then discussed, beginning with a discussion on the possibilities for an execution environment. Continuing from a private email exchange the possibilities of contributing to the design of a common VoiceXML launching and interaction component was discussed. The idea was proposed to allow integration with third party development sites such as TellMe Studio, VoiceGenie Developer Workshop and BeVocal Cafe. It was concluded that writing reference platform implementations that configured a given developer site to point to a local web server hosting VoiceXML content, optionally with the use of a free SIP Phone would be a simple way to produce a good execution environment for the end developer. Various implementation enhancements were discussed to provide functionality like text-based execution through this model and the future enhancements to provide debugging capabilities when browsers are running on a remote scenario were discussed. The project plan's proposed scheduling in conjunction with the Web Tools Project's 1.0 schedule was discussed and a proposal for comments to extend the development of an initial release to enhance industry participation was put forth. As no additional resource was volunteered the schedule was not changed. A meeting time and place for a face to face was discussed. It was proposed that a face to face meeting occur immediately after the New Initiatives Session where the Voice Tools Project is presenting, however due to a scheduling conflict not everyone was able to make that time. It was decided that a discussion should be taken offline. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 002950D38525704D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Note: Due to the SpeechTEK conference no call will take place next week. The next call is scheduled for Thursday, August 11.

Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

July 28, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent D. Metz, IBM
Lenora Wright, IBM
John Muller, Nortel
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe
Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie
Michael Gill, VoiceObjects

The discussion began with a recap of the week's events. An article on contributing to the Voice
Tools Project was submitted to the editors at developerWorks and should be available publicly in
a few weeks, but was offered in Word document form to anyone who wanted to look at it.

The project plan was then discussed, beginning with a discussion on the possibilities for an execution
environment. Continuing from a private email exchange the possibilities of contributing to the
design of a common VoiceXML launching and interaction component was discussed. The idea was proposed
to allow integration with third party development sites such as TellMe Studio, VoiceGenie Developer
Workshop and BeVocal Cafe. It was concluded that writing reference platform implementations that
configured a given developer site to point to a local web server hosting VoiceXML content, optionally
with the use of a free SIP Phone would be a simple way to produce a good execution environment for
the end developer. Various implementation enhancements were discussed to provide functionality like
text-based execution through this model and the future enhancements to provide debugging capabilities
when browsers are running on a remote scenario were discussed.

The project plan's proposed scheduling in conjunction with the Web Tools Project's 1.0 schedule was
discussed and a proposal for comments to extend the development of an initial release to enhance
industry participation was put forth. As no additional resource was volunteered the schedule was not
changed.

A meeting time and place for a face to face was discussed. It was proposed that a face to face meeting
occur immediately after the New Initiatives Session where the Voice Tools Project is presenting,
however due to a scheduling conflict not everyone was able to make that time. It was decided that a
discussion should be taken offline.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 002950D38525704D_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Jul 29 11:56:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83271A3FD3 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6TFudkQ654302 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:56:39 -0400 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j6TFudrD431408 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:56:39 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6TFucIQ022855 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:56:38 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6TFucSY022847 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:56:38 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:56:46 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 07/29/2005 09:56:46, Serialize complete at 07/29/2005 09:56:46 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00578EC48525704D_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] SpeechTEK meeting X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:56:39 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00578EC48525704D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, I'd like to organize an informal meeting at SpeechTEK so that everyone can meet each other and put a face to the name. The simplest time is to meet immediately following the New Initiatives Session tuesday at 5pm in the session room, but I've gotten some feedback that some people can't make that time. If enough people can't make that time, an alternative is to meet sometime Wednesday. Can those who are going to SpeechTEK and would like to attend reply with their availability so we can work out a time? I am currently free Monday morning, Tuesday morning, and all day Wednesday. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00578EC48525704D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

I'd like to organize an informal meeting at SpeechTEK so that everyone can meet each other and put a face to the name. The simplest time is to meet immediately following the New Initiatives Session tuesday at 5pm in the session room, but I've gotten some feedback that some people can't make that time. If enough people can't make that time, an alternative is to meet sometime Wednesday. Can those who are going to SpeechTEK and would like to attend reply with their availability so we can work out a time?

I am currently free Monday morning, Tuesday morning, and all day Wednesday.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00578EC48525704D_=-- From I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib Fri Jul 29 13:05:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from ccerelrim01.cce.hp.com (smtp.cce.hp.com [161.114.21.22]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 998FF10F05 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccerelrim01.cce.hp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by receive-from-antispam-filter (Postfix) with SMTP id 944B7C5A8C for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:04:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailstation.cce.hp.com (mailstation.cce.hp.com [161.114.20.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ccerelrim01.cce.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61939C578B for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:04:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.cce.hp.com (mailstation.cce.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) by mailstation.cce.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D11B1525; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 83.156.74.39 (SquirrelMail authenticated user I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib) by mail.cce.hp.com with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:04:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:04:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] SpeechTEK meeting From: "Frederic Gloppe" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-PMX-Version: 5.0.3.165339, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.7.29.18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:05:04 -0000 Hi, I will prefer Wednesday before 10am or during the afternoon Best regards, Fred -- HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement > Hi, > > I'd like to organize an informal meeting at SpeechTEK so that everyone = can > meet each other and put a face to the name. The simplest time is to mee= t > immediately following the New Initiatives Session tuesday at 5pm in the > session room, but I've gotten some feedback that some people can't make > that time. If enough people can't make that time, an alternative is to > meet sometime Wednesday. Can those who are going to SpeechTEK and would > like to attend reply with their availability so we can work out a time? > > I am currently free Monday morning, Tuesday morning, and all day > Wednesday. > > -- > Brent D. Metz > Enterprise Voice Tools > kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ > "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible.= " - > Alan Kay_______________________________________________ > vtp-dev mailing list > UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev > From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Jul 29 19:28:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.131]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 050F410F28 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6TNSmxk714370 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:28:48 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j6TNSqnU184752 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:28:52 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6TNSlSg015997 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:28:47 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6TNSlMI015991 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:28:47 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:28:54 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 07/29/2005 17:28:55, Serialize complete at 07/29/2005 17:28:55 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0080F82F8525704D_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] re: SpeechTEK meeting X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:28:49 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0080F82F8525704D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, The consensus I got back from everyone was that Wednesday is the most agreeable day, so let's try 2pm Wednesday outside the main Expo hall. See you there! -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0080F82F8525704D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

The consensus I got back from everyone was that Wednesday is the most agreeable day, so let's try 2pm Wednesday outside the main Expo hall. See you there!

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0080F82F8525704D_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Aug 10 21:30:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94028BF28F for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7B1UlkQ777150 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:30:47 -0400 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7B1V1fJ218458 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:31:01 -0600 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7B1UlaZ026632 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:30:47 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7B1UlkA026552; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:30:47 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:30:44 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/10/2005 19:30:53, Serialize complete at 08/10/2005 19:30:53 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00084CCD8525705A_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 11 August Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:30:49 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00084CCD8525705A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Recap SpeechTEK presentation and marketing efforts 3) Review of project promotion status relative to Eclipse Development Guidelines 4) Development contribution discussion 5) Execution environment interface discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00084CCD8525705A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, August 11, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Recap SpeechTEK presentation and marketing efforts
3) Review of project promotion status relative to Eclipse Development Guidelines
4) Development contribution discussion
5) Execution environment interface discussion

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay

--=_alternative 00084CCD8525705A_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Aug 11 14:35:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.131]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D709884 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7BIZfxk588192 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:35:41 -0400 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7BIZQmD485190 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:35:26 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7BIZeYX009505 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:35:40 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7BIZeq9009496 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:35:40 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:35:45 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/11/2005 12:35:48, Serialize complete at 08/11/2005 12:35:48 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0066123D8525705A_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project Development Call Minutes: August 11, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:35:52 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0066123D8525705A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes August 11, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Joe Oh, Audium Frederic Gloppe, HP Brent D. Metz, IBM Lenora Wright, IBM John Buttitto, SandCherry Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe The call began with a recap of the conversations Brent had begun with the Eclipse Foundation regarding the steps necessary to promote the project to the Implementation phase. The current impediment appeared to be multiple organizations basing product deliverables off to the VTP at the time of the review. It was stated that this may cause schedules to change to allow for increased maturation of the VTP in the validation phase versus in the implementation phase. A summary of the SpeechTEK marketing initiatives for the project was presented by Brent and Frederic. The vendors at the were was stated to have a heavy usage of eclipse, both publicly and internally and sentiment for the VTP was said to be overwhelmingly positive among these vendors. A discussion of execution APIs followed, starting with a high level overview of what features a execution API would provide as standard cross-browser function. The topic of how structured to make eventing back from the browser was discussed at length and many alternatives were proposed, from new events extending the existing debug framework to unstructured eventing to simply pass messages back and forth to the UI. The functionality of each vendor's current browser implementation was discussed from the perspective of what could be provided in an API. It was proposed that we simply allow browsers to return unstructured markup back to the UI along with a processing layer to extract meaning for each browser. Along this line of discussion integration with a VoiceXML Forum Data logging format was proposed. The question of whether or not the WTP had any web-oriented debug architecture in place was raised. No one on the call could answer authoritatively. It was suggested that VoiceXML is a uniqely client-oriented programming language that demands dynamic content debugging support in a higher priority fashion than other client scripting languages such as JavaScript in a web browser, and therefore is likely to be the first implementor of such a layer of functionality. The question of whether or not to include Debugging API support in the initial release of an execution API was raised. While the callers expressed interest in starting with simply handling execution, it was also the consensus on the call that production of a Debug API would encourage vendors to add debugging support to their browser implementations. It was tenatively agreed that focusing on just the execution API portion while being cognizant of the need to extend the API into debugging relatively soon would be the correct approach. Perspectives on usage of the API were solicited from the partipants of the call, with several scenarios of usage proposed. It was commented that all executions of a VoiceXML browser generally have some grounding in debugging since they are taking place in a development environment. The lack of debug support initially was agreed to be more about practicality in adoption and development than in any user scenarios. Scenarios such as correleating an executing browser with a visual tool or performing automated test by automatically driving browser input and parsing browser output were discussed. Additionally, the topic of attaching to a running VoiceXML instance was brought up along with subsequent security issues. It was stated that by leaving the specifics of how a browser would be attached to or launched to the browser implementor that security and privacy issues could be avoided in the VTP. As the discussion began to become more technical, it was asked if the development list should be used. It was agreed that further discussions on the nature of the execution API should be taken to the list where more concrete examples can also be proposed. An update on the state of the builds was given. It was stated that due to the WTP build process changing there was an effort underway to re-engineer the VTP builds to match the new WTP build ongoing this week. A new build to work on top of WTP 0.7 and daily builds were said to be in the works. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0066123D8525705A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

August 11, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Joe Oh, Audium
Frederic Gloppe, HP
Brent D. Metz, IBM
Lenora Wright, IBM
John Buttitto, SandCherry
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe


The call began with a recap of the conversations Brent had begun with the Eclipse Foundation regarding
the steps necessary to promote the project to the Implementation phase. The current impediment appeared to
be multiple organizations basing product deliverables off to the VTP at the time of the review. It was
stated that this may cause schedules to change to allow for increased maturation of the VTP in the
validation phase versus in the implementation phase.

A summary of the SpeechTEK marketing initiatives for the project was presented by Brent and Frederic. The
vendors at the were was stated to have a heavy usage of eclipse, both publicly and internally and sentiment
for the VTP was said to be overwhelmingly positive among these vendors.

A discussion of execution APIs followed, starting with a high level overview of what features a execution API
would provide as standard cross-browser function. The topic of how structured to make eventing back from the
browser was discussed at length and many alternatives were proposed, from new events extending the existing
debug framework to unstructured eventing to simply pass messages back and forth to the UI. The functionality of
each vendor's current browser implementation was discussed from the perspective of what could be provided in an
API. It was proposed that we simply allow browsers to return unstructured markup back to the UI along with a
processing layer to extract meaning for each browser. Along this line of discussion integration with a VoiceXML
Forum Data logging format was proposed.

The question of whether or not the WTP had any web-oriented debug architecture in place was raised.
No one on the call could answer authoritatively. It was suggested that VoiceXML is a uniqely client-oriented
programming language that demands dynamic content debugging support in a higher priority fashion than other
client scripting languages such as JavaScript in a web browser, and therefore is likely to be the first
implementor of such a layer of functionality.

The question of whether or not to include Debugging API support in the initial release of an execution API was
raised. While the callers expressed interest in starting with simply handling execution, it was also the consensus
on the call that production of a Debug API would encourage vendors to add debugging support to their browser
implementations. It was tenatively agreed that focusing on just the execution API portion while being cognizant of
the need to extend the API into debugging relatively soon would be the correct approach.

Perspectives on usage of the API were solicited from the partipants of the call, with several scenarios of usage
proposed. It was commented that all executions of a VoiceXML browser generally have some grounding in debugging
since they are taking place in a development environment. The lack of debug support initially was agreed to be
more about practicality in adoption and development than in any user scenarios. Scenarios such as correleating
an executing browser with a visual tool or performing automated test by automatically driving browser input and
parsing browser output were discussed. Additionally, the topic of attaching to a running VoiceXML instance was
brought up along with subsequent security issues. It was stated that by leaving the specifics of how a browser
would be attached to or launched to the browser implementor that security and privacy issues could be avoided
in the VTP.

As the discussion began to become more technical, it was asked if the development list should be used. It was
agreed that further discussions on the nature of the execution API should be taken to the list where more
concrete examples can also be proposed.

An update on the state of the builds was given. It was stated that due to the WTP build process changing there was
an effort underway to re-engineer the VTP builds to match the new WTP build ongoing this week. A new build to
work on top of WTP 0.7 and daily builds were said to be in the works.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0066123D8525705A_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Aug 17 20:27:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF038CF737 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7I0RNgB655646 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:27:23 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7I0RRvx186080 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:27:27 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7I0RMON031819 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:27:22 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7I0RMse031802 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:27:22 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:27:38 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/17/2005 18:27:39, Serialize complete at 08/17/2005 18:27:39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000254C785257061_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 18 August Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:27:28 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000254C785257061_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of project promotion status relative to Eclipse Development Guidelines 3) Execution environment interface discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 000254C785257061_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, August 18, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of project promotion status relative to Eclipse Development Guidelines
3) Execution environment interface discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 000254C785257061_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Aug 23 10:51:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.129]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A1A9DE3B5 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7NEoeF3164790 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:50:50 -0400 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7NEnx0I526958 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:49:59 -0600 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7NEoTl9002570 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:50:29 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7NEoT0a002562 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:50:29 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:50:44 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/23/2005 08:50:55, Serialize complete at 08/23/2005 08:50:55 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005132C085257066_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Article on obtaining and customizing the Voice Tools Project X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:51:22 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005132C085257066_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All, The article I've previously distributed at SpeechTEK and via email is now publicly available to those interested: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/wireless/library/wi-eclipse/ Hope it helps and please let me know if anyone would like to see more in-depth articles to follow on to this one. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 005132C085257066_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi All,

The article I've previously distributed at SpeechTEK and via email is now publicly available to those interested:

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/wireless/library/wi-eclipse/

Hope it helps and please let me know if anyone would like to see more in-depth articles to follow on to this one.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 005132C085257066_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Aug 24 17:02:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DD4AE1D98 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7OL21uD232182 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:02:01 -0400 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7OL29dc312368 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:02:09 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7OL1xOj010947 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:01:59 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7OL1xUA010939 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:01:59 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:02:14 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/24/2005 15:02:26, Serialize complete at 08/24/2005 15:02:26 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007329CE85257067_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:02:04 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007329CE85257067_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site: http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that these plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not jeopardize the schedule. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007329CE85257067_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site:

http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html

Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that these plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not jeopardize the schedule.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007329CE85257067_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Aug 24 17:13:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.131]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BBD0E1DE2 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7OLD1NN287906 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:13:02 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7OLDAdc363638 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:13:10 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7OLD0Zq023799 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:13:01 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7OLD0Fo023788 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:13:00 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:13:16 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/24/2005 15:13:29, Serialize complete at 08/24/2005 15:13:29 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007490EB85257067_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 25 August Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:13:15 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007490EB85257067_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of project and milestone plans 3) Execution environment interface discussion 4) Contribution status -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007490EB85257067_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, August 25, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of project and milestone plans
3) Execution environment interface discussion
4) Contribution status

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007490EB85257067_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Aug 24 21:55:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B384BE25E8 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7P1t7uD432370 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:55:07 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7P1sZen436984 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:54:35 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7P1t7Zh013965 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:55:07 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7P1t7mM013960 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:55:07 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:55:34 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/24/2005 19:55:35, Serialize complete at 08/24/2005 19:55:35 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000A860885257068_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Execution API thoughts X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:55:13 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000A860885257068_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" For tomorrow's call, and for anyone who can't make it, here is what I think the implementation of a generic Execution API would need: Launch configuration type: org.eclipse.vtp.launching.voicexml - Run mode only Launch configuration dialog tab group: - Default pane to choose URL or file in workspace - Browser chooser pane with custom configuration composite ILaunchConfiguration implementation: VoiceXMLBrowserLaunchConfiguration - Define common configuration parameters: URL, ??? - Delegate launch() method to IVoiceXMLBrowser IVoiceXMLBrowser to interact with browser start() stop() pause()? setProperty(String propertyname, Object value) throwevent(String eventname) sendKeypress(char c) sendText(String text) sendSI(String SI[]) boolean hasCapability(String capability) VoiceXMLBrowserDebugTarget to implement IDebugTarget to handle starting,stopping browser, notifying UI of changes, loading Browser UI controls Throw DebugEvent objects of type MODEL_SPECIFIC into the Eclipse Debugging framework via DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet() - Use setData() to attach VoiceXMLBrowserEvent objects New VoiceXMLBrowserEvent object to define the following VoiceXML-specific event types: - Received Keypress - Received Speech - Received SI - Log tag message - Generic log message - Sent text/audio to user - Entered line - Loaded resource -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 000A860885257068_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
For tomorrow's call, and for anyone who can't make it, here is what I think the implementation of a generic Execution API would need:

Launch configuration type: org.eclipse.vtp.launching.voicexml
 - Run mode only

Launch configuration dialog tab group:
 - Default pane to choose URL or file in workspace
 - Browser chooser pane with custom configuration composite

ILaunchConfiguration implementation: VoiceXMLBrowserLaunchConfiguration
 - Define common configuration parameters: URL, ???
 - Delegate launch() method to IVoiceXMLBrowser


IVoiceXMLBrowser to interact with browser
  start()
  stop()
  pause()?
  setProperty(String propertyname, Object value)
  throwevent(String eventname)
  sendKeypress(char c)
  sendText(String text)
  sendSI(String SI[])
  boolean hasCapability(String capability)

VoiceXMLBrowserDebugTarget to implement IDebugTarget to handle starting,stopping browser,
  notifying UI of changes, loading Browser UI controls

Throw DebugEvent objects of type MODEL_SPECIFIC into the Eclipse Debugging framework via
DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet()
  - Use setData() to attach VoiceXMLBrowserEvent objects

New VoiceXMLBrowserEvent object to define the following VoiceXML-specific event types:
  - Received Keypress
  - Received Speech
  - Received SI
  - Log tag message
  - Generic log message
  - Sent text/audio to user
  - Entered line
  - Loaded resource

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 000A860885257068_=-- From TwLlXXB2wMQanKsv@rehTLm/3T16yNYN0 Wed Aug 24 22:03:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (tierw.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F4E711A75 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j7P1oTE9011654 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CAQ010AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h148-147-57-33.avaya.com [148.147.57.33]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j7P1oSE9011634 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:50:28 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5A919.2E9D4F88" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Execution API thoughts Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:03:27 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Execution API thoughts Thread-Index: AcWpGBGuvJn4T37YT3a0BQgyBp0iagAABzyg From: "Yakulis, Ross (Ross)" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:03:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A919.2E9D4F88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See below a few comments: =20 Ross Yakulis -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]On = Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:56 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Execution API thoughts For tomorrow's call, and for anyone who can't make it, here is what I = think the implementation of a generic Execution API would need:=20 Launch configuration type: org.eclipse.vtp.launching.voicexml=20 - Run mode only=20 Launch configuration dialog tab group:=20 - Default pane to choose URL or file in workspace=20 - Browser chooser pane with custom configuration composite=20 ILaunchConfiguration implementation: VoiceXMLBrowserLaunchConfiguration=20 - Define common configuration parameters: URL, ???=20 - Delegate launch() method to IVoiceXMLBrowser=20 IVoiceXMLBrowser to interact with browser=20 start()=20 stop()=20 pause()?=20 setProperty(String propertyname, Object value)=20 throwevent(String eventname)=20 sendKeypress(char c)=20 sendText(String text)=20 sendSI(String SI[]) [Yakulis, Ross (Ross)] SI?=20 boolean hasCapability(String capability)=20 [Yakulis, Ross (Ross)] you may want to force a hangup and also force the = result of a xtansfer in simulation so that the code covers various paths. Also, on the start, you will probably want to pass in various VXML = session variables, for example the session.connection.local.uri and = session.connection.remote.uri (dnis and ani)=20 may cause the application code to take different paths of execution. I assume the send text is for ASR results simulation? If so you might = consider how n-best results are simulated and confidence values are simulated. =20 VoiceXMLBrowserDebugTarget to implement IDebugTarget to handle = starting,stopping browser,=20 notifying UI of changes, loading Browser UI controls=20 Throw DebugEvent objects of type MODEL_SPECIFIC into the Eclipse = Debugging framework via=20 DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet()=20 - Use setData() to attach VoiceXMLBrowserEvent objects=20 New VoiceXMLBrowserEvent object to define the following = VoiceXML-specific event types:=20 - Received Keypress=20 - Received Speech=20 - Received SI=20 - Log tag message=20 - Generic log message=20 - Sent text/audio to user=20 - Entered line=20 - Loaded resource=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." = - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A919.2E9D4F88 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

See=20 below a few comments:
 
Ross=20 Yakulis
-----Original Message-----
From: = mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:56 PM
To:=20 UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject: [vtp-dev] Execution API=20 thoughts


For tomorrow's call, and for = anyone who=20 can't make it, here is what I think the implementation of a generic = Execution=20 API would need:

Launch = configuration type: org.eclipse.vtp.launching.voicexml =
 - Run mode only

Launch configuration dialog tab = group:
 - Default pane to choose URL or file = in=20 workspace
 - Browser = chooser pane=20 with custom configuration composite

ILaunchConfiguration implementation:=20 VoiceXMLBrowserLaunchConfiguration
 - Define common configuration parameters: URL, = ???=20
 - Delegate launch() method = to=20 IVoiceXMLBrowser


IVoiceXMLBrowser to interact with browser
  start()
  stop()
 =20 pause()?
  = setProperty(String=20 propertyname, Object value)
 =20 throwevent(String eventname)
 =20 sendKeypress(char c)
 =20 sendText(String text)
 =20 sendSI(String SI[]) [Yakulis, Ross=20 (Ross)] SI? 
 =20 boolean hasCapability(String capability)
[Yakulis, Ross=20 (Ross)] you may want to force a hangup and also force = the=20 result of a xtansfer in
simulation so that the code covers various = paths.
Also, on the start, you will probably want to pass in = various=20 VXML session=20 variables,
for=20 example the session.connection.local.uri and = session.connection.remote.uri=20 (dnis and ani)
may=20 cause the application code to take different paths of=20 execution.
I=20 assume the send text is for ASR results simulation?  If so you = might=20 consider how n-best
results are simulated and confidence values are=20 simulated.     

VoiceXMLBrowserDebugTarget to implement IDebugTarget to = handle=20 starting,stopping browser,
 =20 notifying UI of changes, loading Browser UI controls =

Throw DebugEvent objects of type = MODEL_SPECIFIC into=20 the Eclipse Debugging framework via
DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet()
  - Use setData() to attach = VoiceXMLBrowserEvent=20 objects

New = VoiceXMLBrowserEvent=20 object to define the following VoiceXML-specific event types: =
  - Received Keypress
  - Received Speech
  - Received SI
  - Log tag message
 =20 - Generic log message
  - Sent=20 text/audio to user
  = - Entered=20 line
  - Loaded = resource=20

--
Brent D. = Metz
Enterprise Voice=20 Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and = complex=20 things should be possible." - Alan = Kay
------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A919.2E9D4F88-- From I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib Thu Aug 25 08:49:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from grerelbas02.bastion.europe.hp.com (grerelbas02.net.external.hp.com [192.6.111.86]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A348C991 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idaexg11.emea.cpqcorp.net (idaexg11.emea.cpqcorp.net [16.16.5.24]) by grerelbas02.bastion.europe.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F2E34047 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:49:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idaexc01.emea.cpqcorp.net ([16.16.5.56]) by idaexg11.emea.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:49:30 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5A973.6F6838D1" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:49:30 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Thread-Index: AcWo7xtSRJZUBPmQSa6tYEUQ2WDNTgAg84Fg From: "Gloppe, Frederic" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Aug 2005 12:49:30.0729 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F85A590:01C5A973] X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:49:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A973.6F6838D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Brent, =20 Thanks a lot. Sounds good to me. What is the process when a feature with = a low priority is not implemented for a specific milestone ? Is it = automatically added to the next milestone ? I suggest to put the documentation with high priority for the RC. I can = not imagine to deliver such kind of tool without appropriate = documentation. =20 Best regards, Frederic -- HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] = On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available =09 =09 Hi,=20 =09 I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site:=20 =09 http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html=20 =09 Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that = these plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not = jeopardize the schedule.=20 =09 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be = possible." - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A973.6F6838D1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Brent,
 
Thanks a lot. Sounds good to me. What is the = process when a=20 feature with a low priority is not implemented for a specific = milestone ?=20 Is it automatically added to the next milestone ?
I suggest to put the documentation with high = priority for=20 the RC. I can not imagine to deliver such kind of tool without = appropriate=20 documentation.
 
Best regards,
Frederic
--
HP OpenCall Partner and developer=20 enablement


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
Sent: mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02
To:=20 UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject: [vtp-dev] Draft plans=20 available


Hi, =

I've posted draft project and milestone = plans to the=20 VTP web site:

http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html

Feedback is welcome, especially from = contributors.=20 Please note that these plans do not preclude additional contributions = that do=20 not jeopardize the schedule.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice=20 Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and = complex=20 things should be possible." - Alan = Kay
------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A973.6F6838D1-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Aug 25 09:46:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04A2511A86 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7PDjmuD094042 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:45:51 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7PDjwct287032 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:45:58 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7PDjmaK001997 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:45:48 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7PDjlqE001792 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:45:47 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:46:14 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/25/2005 07:46:16, Serialize complete at 08/25/2005 07:46:16 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004B7B3B85257068_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:46:11 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004B7B3B85257068_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Every project sets its own processes, but in my mind High Priority Items=20 are the actual requirements to cut the milestone. In larger projects on=20 Eclipse.org I have seen a lot of feature fluidity between releases but=20 since we have a fairly small number of features in mind per milestone I=20 don't think that will happen here. Thanks for catching that problem; I meant to say Medium Priority Items=20 from M3 (which was only Documentation) were High Priority for the RC. And=20 this brings up the point that so far we haven't signed anyone up=20 explicitly to work on organizing the documentation, if anyone is=20 interested. The alternative is to have the committers work on it but my=20 experience is that having someone removed from the development process=20 work on the documentation goes a long way. The IBM XML editor contribution = is already fully documented so most of the structure is already there; it=20 would just be a matter of adding to what's there and keeping everything=20 properly organized. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Gloppe, Frederic" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 08/25/2005 08:49 AM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Hi Brent, =20 Thanks a lot. Sounds good to me. What is the process when a feature with a = low priority is not implemented for a specific milestone ? Is it=20 automatically added to the next milestone ? I suggest to put the documentation with high priority for the RC. I can=20 not imagine to deliver such kind of tool without appropriate=20 documentation. =20 Best regards, Frederic -- HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On=20 Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Hi,=20 I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site:=20 http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html=20 Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that these=20 plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not jeopardize the=20 schedule.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 004B7B3B85257068_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Every project sets its own processes, but in my mind High Priority Items are the actual requirements to cut the milestone. In larger projects on Eclipse.org I have seen a lot of feature fluidity between releases but since we have a fairly small number of featur= es in mind per milestone I don't think that will happen here.

Thanks for catching that problem; I meant to say Medium Priority Items from M3 (which was only Documentation) were High Priority for the RC. And this brings up the point that so far we haven't signed anyone up explicitly to work on organizing the documentat= ion, if anyone is interested. The alternative is to have the committers work on it but my experience is that having someone removed from the development process work on the documentation goes a long way. The IBM XML editor contr= ibution is already fully documented so most of the structure is already there; it would just be a matter of adding to what's there and keeping everything properly organized.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay



"Gloppe, Frederi= c" <I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=

08/25/2005 08:49 AM
Please respond to
Voice Tools general developers

To
"Voice Tools gener= al developers" <UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg>
cc
Subject
RE: [vtp-dev] Draft pla= ns available





Hi Brent,
 
Thanks a lot. Sounds good to= me. What is the process when a feature with a low priority is not implemented for a specific milestone ? Is it automatically added to the next milestone ?
I suggest to put the documen= tation with high priority for the RC. I can not imagine to deliver such kind of tool without appropriate documentation.
 
Best regards,
Frederic
--
HP OpenCall Partner and deve= loper enablement


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent:
mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02
To:
UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject:
[vtp-dev] Draft plans available



Hi,


I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site:


http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html


Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that these plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not jeopardize the schedule.
<= br>
--
Brent D. Metz
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--=_alternative 004B7B3B85257068_=-- From I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib Thu Aug 25 09:58:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from grerelbas02.bastion.europe.hp.com (grerelbas02.net.external.hp.com [192.6.111.86]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ACAE11D50 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idaexg11.emea.cpqcorp.net (idaexg11.emea.cpqcorp.net [16.16.5.24]) by grerelbas02.bastion.europe.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6029E34079 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:58:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idaexc01.emea.cpqcorp.net ([16.16.5.56]) by idaexg11.emea.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:58:03 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5A97D.02B5BB41" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:58:02 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Thread-Index: AcWpe2afL3uvR3XySJ+/1vPGbHNUhAAAJIrA From: "Gloppe, Frederic" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Aug 2005 13:58:03.0338 (UTC) FILETIME=[02D3FAA0:01C5A97D] X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:58:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A97D.02B5BB41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It opens an other question for me: we should adopt some conventions for = the documentation of course but also for the coding and probably also = for the graphical element (such as icons). It can appear as "comestic" = but I think that this should be defined very early in the project. As one of the mid/long term objective is to integrate the VTP in the = WTP, I suggest to adopt the WTP conventions.=20 For example the naming convention: http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/guidelines/naming-conventions= .html =20 They do not provide a style guide for the WTP but they reuse the CDT = one: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/~checkout~/cdt-home/user/docs.ht= ml?cvsroot=3DTools_Project =20 I did not find information about a graphical style guide. =20 What do you think ? =20 Best regards, Fred -- HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] = On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: jeudi 25 ao=FBt 2005 15:46 To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available =09 =09 Every project sets its own processes, but in my mind High Priority = Items are the actual requirements to cut the milestone. In larger = projects on Eclipse.org I have seen a lot of feature fluidity between = releases but since we have a fairly small number of features in mind per = milestone I don't think that will happen here.=20 =09 Thanks for catching that problem; I meant to say Medium Priority Items = from M3 (which was only Documentation) were High Priority for the RC. = And this brings up the point that so far we haven't signed anyone up = explicitly to work on organizing the documentation, if anyone is = interested. The alternative is to have the committers work on it but my = experience is that having someone removed from the development process = work on the documentation goes a long way. The IBM XML editor = contribution is already fully documented so most of the structure is = already there; it would just be a matter of adding to what's there and = keeping everything properly organized.=20 =09 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be = possible." - Alan Kay=20 =09 =09 =09 "Gloppe, Frederic" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 08/25/2005 08:49 AM=20 Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" =20 cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available =09 Hi Brent,=20 =20 Thanks a lot. Sounds good to me. What is the process when a feature = with a low priority is not implemented for a specific milestone ? Is it = automatically added to the next milestone ?=20 I suggest to put the documentation with high priority for the RC. I can = not imagine to deliver such kind of tool without appropriate = documentation.=20 =20 Best regards,=20 Frederic=20 --=20 HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement=20 =09 =09 ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] = On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available =09 =09 Hi,=20 =09 I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site:=20 =09 http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html=20 =09 Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that = these plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not = jeopardize the schedule.=20 =09 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be = possible." - Alan Kay_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A97D.02B5BB41 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It opens an other question for me: we should = adopt some=20 conventions for the documentation of course but also for the coding and = probably=20 also for the graphical element (such as icons). It can appear as = "comestic" but=20 I think that this should be defined very early in the=20 project.
As one of the mid/long term objective is to = integrate the=20 VTP in the WTP, I suggest to adopt the WTP conventions. =
For example the naming = convention:
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/guidelines/nam= ing-conventions.html
 
They do not provide a style guide for the WTP = but they=20 reuse the CDT one:
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.= cgi/~checkout~/cdt-home/user/docs.html?cvsroot=3DTools_Project=
 
I did not find information about a graphical = style=20 guide.
 
What do you think ?
 
Best regards,
Fred
--
HP OpenCall Partner and developer=20 enablement


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
Sent: jeudi 25 ao=FBt 2005 15:46
To: Voice = Tools=20 general developers
Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans=20 available


Every project sets its = own=20 processes, but in my mind High Priority Items are the actual = requirements to=20 cut the milestone. In larger projects on Eclipse.org I have seen a lot = of=20 feature fluidity between releases but since we have a fairly small = number of=20 features in mind per milestone I don't think that will happen = here.=20

Thanks for catching that = problem; I meant=20 to say Medium Priority Items from M3 (which was only Documentation) = were High=20 Priority for the RC. And this brings up the point that so far we = haven't=20 signed anyone up explicitly to work on organizing the documentation, = if anyone=20 is interested. The alternative is to have the committers work on it = but my=20 experience is that having someone removed from the development process = work on=20 the documentation goes a long way. The IBM XML editor contribution is = already=20 fully documented so most of the structure is already there; it would = just be a=20 matter of adding to what's there and keeping everything properly=20 organized.

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Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things = should=20 be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
=20


"Gloppe, = Frederic"=20 <I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20

08/25/2005 08:49 AM=20
Please respond=20 to
Voice Tools general=20 developers

To
"Voice = Tools general=20 developers" <UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg>=20
cc
Subject
RE: = [vtp-dev] Draft=20 plans available

=




Hi Brent,
 
Thanks a lot. Sounds good to me. = What is the=20 process when a feature with a low priority is not implemented for a = specific=20 milestone ? Is it automatically added to the next milestone ? =
I suggest to put the documentation = with high=20 priority for the RC. I can not imagine to deliver such kind of tool = without=20 appropriate documentation.
  =
Best regards,
Frederic
--
HP = OpenCall Partner=20 and developer enablement


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
Sent:
mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02
To:
=20 UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject:
[vtp-dev] Draft plans=20 available



Hi,


I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP = web=20 site:


http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html
=20

Feedback is welcome, = especially=20 from contributors. Please note that these plans do not preclude = additional=20 contributions that do not jeopardize the schedule.
=20

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Enterprise=20 Voice Tools
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5A97D.02B5BB41-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Aug 25 10:13:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.131]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BAB711D50 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7PEDRNN455586 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:13:27 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7PEBet4049418 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:11:40 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7PECCTb012671 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:12:12 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7PECCQl012510 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:12:12 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:12:35 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/25/2005 08:12:41, Serialize complete at 08/25/2005 08:12:41 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004E017785257068_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:13:54 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004E017785257068_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent finds, and I'll add them to the project plan as well. BTW, we=20 already follow the project layout conventions of WTP described in that=20 first document. In terms of icons, isn't there an Eclipse style guide for that? There are=20 a number of Eclipse convention documents for the platform as a whole that=20 I'll assemble links to while we're looking at this. There appears to be a=20 lot of work going on to unify processes across all the Eclipse development = communities so we'll have to keep an eye on this going towards 1.0. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Gloppe, Frederic" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 08/25/2005 09:58 AM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available It opens an other question for me: we should adopt some conventions for=20 the documentation of course but also for the coding and probably also for=20 the graphical element (such as icons). It can appear as "comestic" but I=20 think that this should be defined very early in the project. As one of the mid/long term objective is to integrate the VTP in the WTP,=20 I suggest to adopt the WTP conventions.=20 For example the naming convention: http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/guidelines/naming-conventions.h= tml =20 They do not provide a style guide for the WTP but they reuse the CDT one: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/~checkout~/cdt-home/user/docs.html= ?cvsroot=3DTools=5FProject =20 I did not find information about a graphical style guide. =20 What do you think ? =20 Best regards, Fred -- HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On=20 Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: jeudi 25 ao=FBt 2005 15:46 To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Every project sets its own processes, but in my mind High Priority Items=20 are the actual requirements to cut the milestone. In larger projects on=20 Eclipse.org I have seen a lot of feature fluidity between releases but=20 since we have a fairly small number of features in mind per milestone I=20 don't think that will happen here.=20 Thanks for catching that problem; I meant to say Medium Priority Items=20 from M3 (which was only Documentation) were High Priority for the RC. And=20 this brings up the point that so far we haven't signed anyone up=20 explicitly to work on organizing the documentation, if anyone is=20 interested. The alternative is to have the committers work on it but my=20 experience is that having someone removed from the development process=20 work on the documentation goes a long way. The IBM XML editor contribution = is already fully documented so most of the structure is already there; it=20 would just be a matter of adding to what's there and keeping everything=20 properly organized.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay=20 "Gloppe, Frederic" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 08/25/2005 08:49 AM=20 Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" =20 cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Hi Brent,=20 =20 Thanks a lot. Sounds good to me. What is the process when a feature with a = low priority is not implemented for a specific milestone ? Is it=20 automatically added to the next milestone ?=20 I suggest to put the documentation with high priority for the RC. I can=20 not imagine to deliver such kind of tool without appropriate=20 documentation.=20 =20 Best regards,=20 Frederic=20 --=20 HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement=20 From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On=20 Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available Hi,=20 I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site:=20 http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html=20 Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that these=20 plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not jeopardize the=20 schedule.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 004E017785257068_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Excellent finds, and I'll add them to the project plan as well. BTW, we already follow the project layout convent= ions of WTP described in that first document.

In terms of icons, isn't there an Ec= lipse style guide for that? There are a number of Eclipse convention documents for the platform as a whole that I'll assemble links to while we're looking at this. There appears to be a lot of work going on to unify processes across all the Eclipse development communities so we'll have to keep an eye on this going towards 1.0.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay



"Gloppe, Frederi= c" <I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=

08/25/2005 09:58 AM
Please respond to
Voice Tools general developers

To
"Voice Tools gener= al developers" <UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg>
cc
Subject
RE: [vtp-dev] Draft pla= ns available





It opens an other question f= or me: we should adopt some conventions for the documentation of course but also for the coding and probably also for the graphical element (such as icons). It can appear as "comestic" but I think that this should be defined very early in the project.
As one of the mid/long term = objective is to integrate the VTP in the WTP, I suggest to adopt the WTP conventions.
For example the naming conve= ntion:
http://ww= w.eclipse.org/webtools/development/guidelines/naming-conventions.html
 
They do not provide a style = guide for the WTP but they reuse the CDT one:
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/~checkout~/cdt-home/= user/docs.html?cvsroot=3DTools=5FProject
 
I did not find information a= bout a graphical style guide.
 
What do you think ?
 
Best regards,
Fred
--
HP OpenCall Partner and deve= loper enablement


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent:
jeudi 25 ao=FBt 2005 15:46
To:
Voice Tools general developers
Subject:
RE: [vtp-dev] Draft plans available



Every project sets its own processes, but in my mind High Priority Items are the actual requirements to cut the milestone. In larger projects on Eclipse.org I have seen a lot of feature fluidity between releases but since we have a fairly small number of features in mind per milestone I don't think that will happen here.


Thanks for catching that problem; I meant to say Medium Priority Items from M3 (which was only Documentation) were High Priority for the RC. And this brings up the point that so far we haven't signed anyone up explicitly to work on organizing the documentation, if anyone is interested. The alter= native is to have the committers work on it but my experience is that having someo= ne removed from the development process work on the documentation goes a long way. The IBM XML editor contribution is already fully documented so most of the structure is already there; it would just be a matter of adding to what's there and keeping everything properly organized.


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay


"Gloppe, Frederi= c" <I4b62yz8T554c4eo@YhJD24YG3oIj/0ib>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

08/25/2005 08:49 AM
Please respond to
Voice Tools general developers


To
"Voice= Tools general developers" <UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg>
cc
Subject
RE: [vtp-dev] Draft pla= ns available







Hi Brent,

 

Thanks a lot. Sounds good to me. What is the process when a feature with a low priority is not implemented for a specific milestone ? Is it automati= cally added to the next milestone ?

I suggest to put the documentation with high priority for the RC. I can not imagine to deliver such kind of tool without appropriate documentation.=

 

Best regards,

Frederic

--
=
HP OpenCall Partner and developer enablement



From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent:
mercredi 24 ao=FBt 2005 23:02
To:
UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject:
[vtp-dev] Draft plans available



Hi,


I've posted draft project and milestone plans to the VTP web site:


http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/plans.html


Feedback is welcome, especially from contributors. Please note that these plans do not preclude additional contributions that do not jeopardize the schedule.
<= br>
--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay
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--=_alternative 004E017785257068_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Aug 25 12:01:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D69411C74 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7PFxvuD248882 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:59:58 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7PG04ct047754 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:00:04 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7PFxsbv018111 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:59:54 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7PFxs9U018104 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:59:54 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:00:22 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/25/2005 10:00:24, Serialize complete at 08/25/2005 10:00:24 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0057E00485257068_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Voice Tools Project Development Call Minutes: August 25, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:01:27 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0057E00485257068_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes August 25, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Ross Yakulis, Avaya Frederic Gloppe, HP Brent D. Metz, IBM John Muller, Nortel Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie The call began with a discussion of the status of the project's ascention to the release phase. It was stated that since it is taking longer than initially planned to be brought to the Technology PMC there is still time to modify plans to incorporate additional contributions. A discussion of the plans was started by detailing the contents of the Project plan. There were no comments on the project plan. The milestone plan was reviewed. It was commented that the launching of the web project was not part of the plan and a discussion of how web launching integration with the WTP components would occur. An action item to resolve with the WTP how web browsers are launched following the launch of a web project and how a VoiceXML execution API could be alternatively plugged in and what criteria would cause that to occur. A discussion of the Execution APIs began and recieved no comments. It was stated that the APIs need further review from VoiceXML browser developers to validate that the API is usable by a wide variety of vendors. Recognition APIs were discussed with the main topic of discussion being how to target a generic recognizer. It was stated that since MRCP is essentially a technology-neutral layer amongst recognition APIs that such a generic recognizer API should strive to follow MRCP's functions closely. A discussion of how to advertise function sets began. It was agreed that initial APIs should focus on SRGS functionality for things like testing grammars as there is no current editing or conversion support for other grammar languages. The call ended with a notice that there is a scheduling conflict with the next call and that issues should be discussed for the week on the mailing list instead. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0057E00485257068_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

August 25, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Ross Yakulis, Avaya
Frederic Gloppe, HP
Brent D. Metz, IBM
John Muller, Nortel
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie

The call began with a discussion of the status of the project's ascention to the release phase. It was stated that since
it is taking longer than initially planned to be brought to the Technology PMC there is still time to modify plans to
incorporate additional contributions.

A discussion of the plans was started by detailing the contents of the Project plan. There were no comments on the project
plan. The milestone plan was reviewed. It was commented that the launching of the web project was not part of the plan and
a discussion of how web launching integration with the WTP components would occur. An action item to resolve with the WTP how
web browsers are launched following the launch of a web project and how a VoiceXML execution API could be alternatively
plugged in and what criteria would cause that to occur.

A discussion of the Execution APIs began and recieved no comments. It was stated that the APIs need further review from
VoiceXML browser developers to validate that the API is usable by a wide variety of vendors.

Recognition APIs were discussed with the main topic of discussion being how to target a generic recognizer. It was stated
that since MRCP is essentially a technology-neutral layer amongst recognition APIs that such a generic recognizer API should
strive to follow MRCP's functions closely. A discussion of how to advertise function sets began. It was agreed that initial
APIs should focus on SRGS functionality for things like testing grammars as there is no current editing or conversion support
for other grammar languages.

The call ended with a notice that there is a scheduling conflict with the next call and that issues should be discussed for the
week on the mailing list instead.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0057E00485257068_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Aug 31 18:10:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CFA6F48E1 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7VM9SnK047210 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:09:30 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j7VM9iYL029426 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:09:44 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7VM9S48009178 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:09:28 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7VM9SNI009169 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:09:28 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:10:03 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 08/31/2005 16:10:06, Serialize complete at 08/31/2005 16:10:06 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0079BAAA8525706E_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP M0.7 is available X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:10:09 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0079BAAA8525706E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All, Milestone "0.7" is now available from the VTP web site. This milestone updates the VTP to support WTP 0.7 and matures the build process. As part of the milestone we now have nightly builds, available from the downloads page as well. Committers should update the vtp.maps file under editor/org.eclipse.vtp.releng/ to include new plugins/features as part of the build. As a reminder, there will be no development call tomorrow due to a scheduling conflict. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0079BAAA8525706E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi All,

Milestone "0.7" is now available from the VTP web site. This milestone updates the VTP to support WTP 0.7 and matures the build process. As part of the milestone we now have nightly builds, available from the downloads page as well. Committers should update the vtp.maps file under editor/org.eclipse.vtp.releng/ to include new plugins/features as part of the build.

As a reminder, there will be no development call tomorrow due to a scheduling conflict.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0079BAAA8525706E_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Sep 7 15:43:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31AA110E19 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j87JgnKL364652 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:42:51 -0400 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j87JfZYG265646 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:41:36 -0600 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j87JfDoj002545 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:41:13 -0600 Received: from [9.17.195.139] (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j87JfD7W002533 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:41:13 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:41:58 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June 30, 2005) at 09/07/2005 13:42:01, Serialize complete at 09/07/2005 13:42:01 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006C280A85257075_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 8 September Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:43:03 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006C280A85257075_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, September 8, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of project promotion status relative to Eclipse Development Guidelines 3) Execution environment interface discussion 4) Recognition interface API discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006C280A85257075_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, September 8, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of project promotion status relative to Eclipse Development Guidelines
3) Execution environment interface discussion
4) Recognition interface API discussion

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 006C280A85257075_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Sep 14 16:53:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e5.ny.us.ibm.com (e5.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.145]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79FA61089C for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e5.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8EKrRUv019252 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:53:27 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j8EKqUQZ477964 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:52:30 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8EKq3Og019844 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:52:03 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8EKq2jU019704 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:52:02 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:52:53 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 09/14/2005 14:53:01 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_mixed 00729B658525707C_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 15 September Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:53:28 -0000 --=_mixed 00729B658525707C_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00729B658525707C_=" --=_alternative 00729B658525707C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of project status 3) Presentation of draft Execution API 4) Discussion of Speech Engine API -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00729B658525707C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, September 15, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of project status
3) Presentation of draft Execution API
4) Discussion of Speech Engine API

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00729B658525707C_=-- --=_mixed 00729B658525707C_= Content-Type: text/plain; name="VTP Minutes September 8 2005.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VTP Minutes September 8 2005.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes September 8, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Frederic Gloppe, HP Brent D. Metz, IBM Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie The call began with a summary of the "Milestone 0.7" build that was release= d. Instructions on how to insert new code were made. A discussion was held on a speech engine API design. Feature sets were disc= ussed including text simulation and text to speech. The point was raised that functionality= should be minimal to reflect what would be exercised by potential users of the the tool. It was proposed that a media resource layer be part of the API in order to = facilitate cross-engine property settings such as automatically stopping a text to spe= ech engine when a recognizer detects speech input. It was agreed that a logical grouping of= speech engines should be a part of the API. The topic of value adds in the platform such as a speech engine pool manage= r was brought up. Since there is no immediate issue for which this would be a problem, it was= left as a feature for a future revision of the tooling and declared out of scope for an initi= al release. The subject of standardized VoiceXML Browser events came up and it was note= d that most eventing could take advantage of pre-existing mechanisms in the Debug Event model su= ch as declaring an event model-specific with an object containing the pertinent voicexml-speci= fic event data. The question was raised as to whether or not VoiceXML browsers should be requir= ed to go through a standardized API in order to throw these events or if they should be able= to insert events into the debug manager's event queue directly. It was decided that for the = correct amount of flexiblity and ease of implementation a utility class should be written to = throw the events to the debug event manager for clients.= --=_mixed 00729B658525707C_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Sep 15 10:15:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBFA61098C for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j8FEFswP308290 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:15:54 -0400 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j8FEF5EX539528 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:15:05 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8FEEb0c024409 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:37 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8FEEbkG024398 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:37 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:15:36 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 09/15/2005 08:15:37, Serialize complete at 09/15/2005 08:15:37 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004E3BF28525707D_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Browser API Links X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:15:59 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004E3BF28525707D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" On the call today we're going to review the draft of the browser APIs. Here are some links to look at, which I would encourage you to review internally with your development teams over the next weeks whether you implement a VoiceXML browser or tooling that interacts with a VoiceXML browser. The purpose of our first milestone is to find out if the APIs as designed are usable and useful in real-world scenarios. Please provide feedback to the list so that the API can be improved. Keep in mind that this release focuses solely on execution, not debugging, but should not preclude expansion into that functionality in future releases. The extension point schema is in CVS, but to give an example, someone would register their browser by doing something like: Where class is an instance of IVoiceXMLBrowser and configurationUIClass is an optional attribute supplying an instance of IBrowserConfigurationUI (links below). By supplying the configurationUIClass the VTP launch configuration dialog will include the browser-specific configuration pane in its dialog when this browser entry is selected. Tooling can obtain a full listing of available voice browsers from this extension point. IVoiceXMLBrowser represents the primary interface of tooling to configure, launch and feed input into the voicexml browser: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVoiceXMLBrowser.java?rev=1.2&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup VoiceXMLBrowserInput provides a generic input object for sending input (events, dtmf, speech) to the browser object. May be subclassed to provide browser-specific enhancements. http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/VoiceXMLBrowserInput.java?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup IBrowserConfigurationUI can be implemented if a pane is desired to configure browser-specific elements in the launch configuration dialog. http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.debug.ui/src/org/eclipse/vtp/debug/ui/IBrowserConfigurationUI.java?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Browsers must throw standard Eclipse DebugEvents for startup/stop as detailed in this document: http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugEvent.html In addition, they are encouraged to provide more detailed eventing by specifying the type DebugEvent.MODEL_SPECIFIC and using the detail flags specified here: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVoiceXMLBrowserConstants.java?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup For their event source, they should provide the instance of their IVoiceXMLBrowser object. Tooling can listen for these events by registering an IDebugEventSetListener as provided by the eclipse platform: http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugPlugin.html -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 004E3BF28525707D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
On the call today we're going to review the draft of the browser APIs. Here are some links to look at, which I would encourage you to review internally with your development teams over the next weeks whether you implement a VoiceXML browser or tooling that interacts with a VoiceXML browser. The purpose of our first milestone is to find out if the APIs as designed are usable and useful in real-world scenarios. Please provide feedback to the list so that the API can be improved. Keep in mind that this release focuses solely on execution, not debugging, but should not preclude expansion into that functionality in future releases.

The extension point schema is in CVS, but to give an example, someone would register their browser by doing something like:

<extension point="org.eclipse.vtp.launching.voiceXMLBrowser">
  <browser
       name="MyCo VoiceXML Browser 2.1"
       id="com.myco.voicexmlbrowser"
       class="com.myco.browser.MyVoiceXMLBrowser"
       configurationUIClass="com.myco.browser.ui.MyVoiceXMLBrowserConfigurationPane"/>
</extension>

Where class is an instance of IVoiceXMLBrowser and configurationUIClass is an optional attribute supplying an instance of IBrowserConfigurationUI (links below). By supplying the configurationUIClass the VTP launch configuration dialog will include the browser-specific configuration pane in its dialog when this browser entry is selected. Tooling can obtain a full listing of available voice browsers from this extension point.

IVoiceXMLBrowser represents the primary interface of tooling to configure, launch and feed input into the voicexml browser:

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVoiceXMLBrowser.java?rev=1.2&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

VoiceXMLBrowserInput provides a generic input object for sending input (events, dtmf, speech) to the browser object. May be subclassed to provide browser-specific enhancements.

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/VoiceXMLBrowserInput.java?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

IBrowserConfigurationUI can be implemented if a pane is desired to configure browser-specific elements in the launch configuration dialog.

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.debug.ui/src/org/eclipse/vtp/debug/ui/IBrowserConfigurationUI.java?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

Browsers must throw standard Eclipse DebugEvents for startup/stop as detailed in this document:

http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugEvent.html

In addition, they are encouraged to provide more detailed eventing by specifying the type DebugEvent.MODEL_SPECIFIC and using the detail flags specified here:

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVoiceXMLBrowserConstants.java?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

For their event source, they should provide the instance of their IVoiceXMLBrowser object. Tooling can listen for these events by registering an IDebugEventSetListener  as provided by the eclipse platform:

http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugPlugin.html

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 004E3BF28525707D_=-- From TwLlXXB2wMQanKsv@rehTLm/3T16yNYN0 Thu Sep 15 11:02:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (tierw.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90C161D68 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j8FEnBEX018310 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CAQ010AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h148-147-57-33.avaya.com [148.147.57.33]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j8FEmoEX017805 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:48:54 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5BA06.722D1FBC" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 15 September Eclipse Voice Tools DevelopmentCall Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:02:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 15 September Eclipse Voice Tools DevelopmentCall Thread-Index: AcW5bnAhVP8RjuvbTOa16duCds3oPwAl9v2A From: "Yakulis, Ross (Ross)" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:02:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BA06.722D1FBC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I get invalid passcode? -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]On = Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:53 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 15 September Eclipse Voice Tools = DevelopmentCall Hello,=20 This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call = will take place on:=20 Thursday, September 15, 2005=20 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)=20 Duration: 1 hour=20 Dial-in numbers: =20 866-650-8398 (toll free within US)=20 210-516-7928 (toll call within US)=20 Passcode: 4075904=20 Proposed Agenda:=20 1) Roll call=20 2) Review of project status=20 3) Presentation of draft Execution API=20 4) Discussion of Speech Engine API=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." = - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BA06.722D1FBC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I get=20 invalid passcode?
-----Original Message-----
From: = mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:53 = PM
To:=20 UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 15 = September=20 Eclipse Voice Tools DevelopmentCall


Hello,

This=20 is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will = take=20 place on:

Thursday, = September 15,=20 2005
11:00am ET=20  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
 =20  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within = US)=20
Passcode: 4075904 =

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) = Review of=20 project status
3) = Presentation of=20 draft Execution API
4) = Discussion of=20 Speech Engine API

--
Brent D.=20 Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things = should=20 be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan=20 Kay
------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BA06.722D1FBC-- From Peter_V8q8cyaTsN54VTVC@OyxNmURbhd8ZsHU7 Sun Sep 18 11:01:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail.nsc.net.au (mail.nsc.net.au [202.92.98.245]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E508D11E882 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:01:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter_V8q8cyaTsN54VTVC@OyxNmURbhd8ZsHU7 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:01:01 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on nsc01/NSC(Release 5.0.13a |April 8, 2004) at 19/09/2005 01:01:09 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [vtp-dev] Peter Smillie/NSC is out of the office. X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:01:08 -0000 I will be out of the office starting 16/09/2005 and will not return until 03/10/2005. I am presently on leave until Monday 3rd October. I my absence please contact my manager, Craig Sims, in Sydney on (02) 9856 4040 or e-mail Craig_c3awOietXLBeT8iJ@OyxNmURbhd8ZsHU7. Regards Peter Smillie From lCTTeb7IyIl8TzD9@jFVLytkKFeggShY0 Mon Sep 19 13:44:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from west.com (iml04.west.com [199.38.49.78]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E22E10A73 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ([199.38.51.134]) by iml04.west.com with ESMTP id KP-TRMF2.28797206; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:39:17 -0500 Received: from omacex06.corp.westworlds.com ([10.0.17.201]) by oma01exbh02.corp.westworlds.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:39:50 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5BD41.226C9C87" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Browser API Links Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:39:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Browser API Links Thread-Index: AcW6ABSaUUQgAFWWSNuCXBlqRWSsLwDP49gw From: "Milton, Chris M." To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 17:39:50.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[22915180:01C5BD41] X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:44:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BD41.226C9C87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable During last Thursday's conference call I asked whether = EVENT_ENTERED_FORM, EVENT_EXITED_FORM, EVENT_ENTERED_FIELD, and EVENT_EXITED_FIELD would be better represented = as generic tag events. Now I withdraw my question. I'm still not up to speed on all this code = (Eclipse plugin development and VoiceXML browsers). _____ =20 From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] = On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:16 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Browser API Links =09 =09 =09 On the call today we're going to review the draft of the browser APIs. = Here are some links to look at, which I would encourage you to review = internally with your development teams over the next weeks whether you = implement a VoiceXML browser or tooling that interacts with a VoiceXML = browser. The purpose of our first milestone is to find out if the APIs = as designed are usable and useful in real-world scenarios. Please = provide feedback to the list so that the API can be improved. Keep in = mind that this release focuses solely on execution, not debugging, but = should not preclude expansion into that functionality in future = releases.=20 =09 The extension point schema is in CVS, but to give an example, someone = would register their browser by doing something like:=20 =09 =20 =20 =20 =09 Where class is an instance of IVoiceXMLBrowser and configurationUIClass = is an optional attribute supplying an instance of = IBrowserConfigurationUI (links below). By supplying the = configurationUIClass the VTP launch configuration dialog will include = the browser-specific configuration pane in its dialog when this browser = entry is selected. Tooling can obtain a full listing of available voice = browsers from this extension point.=20 =09 IVoiceXMLBrowser represents the primary interface of tooling to = configure, launch and feed input into the voicexml browser:=20 =09 = http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plu= gins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVoiceXMLBro= wser.java?rev=3D1.2&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs-markup=20 =09 VoiceXMLBrowserInput provides a generic input object for sending input = (events, dtmf, speech) to the browser object. May be subclassed to = provide browser-specific enhancements.=20 =09 = http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plu= gins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/VoiceXMLBrow= serInput.java?rev=3D1.1&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs-markup=20 =09 IBrowserConfigurationUI can be implemented if a pane is desired to = configure browser-specific elements in the launch configuration dialog.=20 =09 = http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plu= gins/org.eclipse.vtp.debug.ui/src/org/eclipse/vtp/debug/ui/IBrowserConfig= urationUI.java?rev=3D1.1&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs-markup=20 =09 Browsers must throw standard Eclipse DebugEvents for startup/stop as = detailed in this document:=20 =09 = http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=3D/org.eclipse.platform.do= c.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugEvent.html=20 =09 In addition, they are encouraged to provide more detailed eventing by = specifying the type DebugEvent.MODEL_SPECIFIC and using the detail flags = specified here:=20 =09 = http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plu= gins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVoiceXMLBro= wserConstants.java?rev=3D1.1&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs-markup=20 =09 For their event source, they should provide the instance of their = IVoiceXMLBrowser object. Tooling can listen for these events by = registering an IDebugEventSetListener as provided by the eclipse = platform:=20 =09 = http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=3D/org.eclipse.platform.do= c.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugPlugin.html=20 =09 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be = possible." - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BD41.226C9C87 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
During last Thursday's conference call I asked = whether=20 EVENT_ENTERED_FORM, EVENT_EXITED_FORM,
EVENT_ENTERED_FIELD, and EVENT_EXITED_FIELD = would be better=20 represented as generic tag events.
Now I withdraw my question. I'm still not up to = speed on=20 all this code (Eclipse plugin development and = VoiceXML
browsers).


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D=20 Metz
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:16
To:=20 UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject: [vtp-dev] Browser API=20 Links


On the call today we're going to review the = draft of=20 the browser APIs. Here are some links to look at, which I would = encourage you=20 to review internally with your development teams over the next weeks = whether=20 you implement a VoiceXML browser or tooling that interacts with a = VoiceXML=20 browser. The purpose of our first milestone is to find out if the APIs = as=20 designed are usable and useful in real-world scenarios. Please provide = feedback to the list so that the API can be improved. Keep in mind = that this=20 release focuses solely on execution, not debugging, but should not = preclude=20 expansion into that functionality in future releases. =

The extension point schema is in CVS, but = to give an=20 example, someone would register their browser by doing something = like:=20

<extension=20 point=3D"org.eclipse.vtp.launching.voiceXMLBrowser"> =
  <browser
       name=3D"MyCo VoiceXML Browser 2.1" =
     =20  id=3D"com.myco.voicexmlbrowser"
     =20  class=3D"com.myco.browser.MyVoiceXMLBrowser"
     =20 =  configurationUIClass=3D"com.myco.browser.ui.MyVoiceXMLBrowserConfig= urationPane"/>=20
</extension> =

Where class is an instance of = IVoiceXMLBrowser and=20 configurationUIClass is an optional attribute supplying an instance of = IBrowserConfigurationUI (links below). By supplying the = configurationUIClass=20 the VTP launch configuration dialog will include the browser-specific=20 configuration pane in its dialog when this browser entry is selected. = Tooling=20 can obtain a full listing of available voice browsers from this = extension=20 point.

IVoiceXMLBrowser represents=20 the primary interface of tooling to configure, launch and feed input = into the=20 voicexml browser:

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/sim= debug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVo= iceXMLBrowser.java?rev=3D1.2&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs-markup=20

VoiceXMLBrowserInput provides = a generic=20 input object for sending input (events, dtmf, speech) to the browser = object.=20 May be subclassed to provide browser-specific enhancements.=20

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/sim= debug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/Voi= ceXMLBrowserInput.java?rev=3D1.1&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs-mark= up=20

IBrowserConfigurationUI can = be=20 implemented if a pane is desired to configure browser-specific = elements in the=20 launch configuration dialog.

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/sim= debug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.debug.ui/src/org/eclipse/vtp/debug/ui/IBrow= serConfigurationUI.java?rev=3D1.1&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs-mar= kup=20

Browsers must throw standard = Eclipse=20 DebugEvents for startup/stop as detailed in this document:=20

http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=3D/org.eclipse.pl= atform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugEvent.html=20

In addition, they are = encouraged to=20 provide more detailed eventing by specifying the type=20 DebugEvent.MODEL_SPECIFIC and using the detail flags specified = here:=20

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/org.eclipse.vtp/sim= debug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching/src/org/eclipse/vtp/launching/IVo= iceXMLBrowserConstants.java?rev=3D1.1&content-type=3Dtext/vnd.viewcvs= -markup=20

For their event source, they = should=20 provide the instance of their IVoiceXMLBrowser object. Tooling can = listen for=20 these events by registering an IDebugEventSetListener  as = provided by the=20 eclipse platform:

http://help.eclipse.org/help30/index.jsp?topic=3D/org.eclipse.pl= atform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/debug/core/DebugPlugin.html=20

--
Brent D. = Metz
Enterprise Voice=20 Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and = complex=20 things should be possible." - Alan = Kay
------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BD41.226C9C87-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Sep 20 17:44:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (unknown [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 155E810ADE for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8KLhQGH006526 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:43:26 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j8KLiiOt237560 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:44:44 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8KLiiEU030018 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:44:44 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8KLiiQU030013 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:44:44 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:45:51 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 09/20/2005 15:45:52, Serialize complete at 09/20/2005 15:45:52 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007771C485257082_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP M1 is available X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:44:45 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007771C485257082_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All, VTP milestone build "M1" is now available from the VTP web site. In addition to providing a standards-based editing environment for voice applications, this milestone exposes two new API sets for clients to use to enhance their tooling offerings: 1) A VoiceXML browser execution API, allowing registered browsers to communicate and be controlled by any user of the API 2) A speech services API allowing tooling to communicate to a speech service using a vendor-neutral API Both offer a real opportunity for Eclipse-based voice tooling to reach new levels of interoperability. As these are developed-oriented builds, please evaluate the APIs contained in these builds for suitability to your environment and report back suggestions for improvement to the API. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007771C485257082_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi All,

VTP milestone build "M1" is now available from the VTP web site. In addition to providing a standards-based editing environment for voice applications, this milestone exposes two new API sets for clients to use to enhance their tooling offerings:


 1) A VoiceXML browser execution API, allowing registered browsers to communicate and be controlled by any user of the API
 2) A speech services API allowing tooling to communicate to a speech service using a vendor-neutral API

Both offer a real opportunity for Eclipse-based voice tooling to reach new levels of interoperability. As these are developed-oriented builds, please evaluate the APIs contained in these builds for suitability to your environment and report back suggestions for improvement to the API.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007771C485257082_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Sep 21 15:54:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (unknown [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7186F123F9A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8LJsFjr013121 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:54:15 -0400 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j8LJt62N521180 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:55:06 -0600 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8LJsYND007719 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:54:34 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8LJsYSX007712 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:54:34 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:55:42 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 09/21/2005 13:55:43, Serialize complete at 09/21/2005 13:55:43 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006D5A2E85257083_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 22 September Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:54:35 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006D5A2E85257083_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of project status 3) Presentation of draft Speech Services API -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006D5A2E85257083_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, September 22, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of project status
3) Presentation of draft Speech Services API

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 006D5A2E85257083_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Thu Sep 22 23:57:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4845310D02 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3F1931 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 20:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FF0929 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 20:57:51 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5BFF2.F7F4DABC" Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 20:57:50 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Preferred Java version for VTP Thread-Index: AcW/8venocWxRJLPQBWrVNDYcDfkYA== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: Subject: [vtp-dev] Preferred Java version for VTP X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 03:57:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BFF2.F7F4DABC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What is the level of Java SDK that most people are using while developing for VTP? I have been using 1.5.0, and encountered a few troubles attributable to unique features of 1.5. =20 Should I drop back? =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BFF2.F7F4DABC Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What is the level of Java SDK that most people are = using while developing for VTP? I have been using 1.5.0, and encountered a few troubles attributable to unique features of = 1.5.

 

Should I drop back?

 

-- Mike

------_=_NextPart_001_01C5BFF2.F7F4DABC-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Wed Oct 12 18:03:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C702812188 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6F692F for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C33931 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5CF78.B59D9FDE" Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:02:59 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Call tomorrow? Thread-Index: AcXPeLVOJ13k6QXjTgOPcr7B1f/bPA== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: Subject: [vtp-dev] Call tomorrow? X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:03:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5CF78.B59D9FDE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi - =20 My notes from the last conference call before Brent went on vacation say the next call is Oct 13. However, I received an auto response from Brent in email that says he will not be back until the 14th. =20 Is there a call tomorrow? =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5CF78.B59D9FDE Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi –

 

My notes from the last conference call before Brent = went on vacation say the next call is Oct 13. However, I received an auto = response from Brent in email that says he will not be back until the = 14th.

 

Is there a call = tomorrow?

 

-- Mike

------_=_NextPart_001_01C5CF78.B59D9FDE-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Oct 18 23:49:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE93F12E61 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9J3nb18003886 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:49:37 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j9J3nbb5428152 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:49:37 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9J3nbnH019458 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:49:37 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9J3nbmn019455 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:49:37 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:51:26 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 10/18/2005 21:51:27, Serialize complete at 10/18/2005 21:51:27 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0014D0D28525709F_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 20 October Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:49:38 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0014D0D28525709F_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of project status 3) API development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0014D0D28525709F_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, October 20, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of project status
3) API development discussion

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0014D0D28525709F_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Oct 20 16:36:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92FA713714 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9KKanbU031280 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:36:49 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j9KKbhtE495450 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:37:43 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9KKanbW022360 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:36:49 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9KKanHX022352 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:36:49 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:38:39 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 10/20/2005 14:38:41, Serialize complete at 10/20/2005 14:38:41 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007139EA852570A0_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: October 20, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:36:50 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007139EA852570A0_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes October 20, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Joe Oh, Audium Brent D. Metz, IBM John Buttito, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie The call began with a summary of the state of the project. It was noted that development on features planned for the 1.0 release had not begun and that multiple committers have been unable to provide a firm schedule for development on the project. In light of these facts it was proposed that the release be scaled down to a more containable feature set surrounding the existing code base and improvement of the execution API. A participant agreed that this appeared to be the prudent move. Another caller noted that the browser API would be in particular the most important part that they would find useful. A revised milestone plan draft was said to be a next step and would be sent to the vtp-dev mailing list. The project status continued with a discussion of a possible move to the Web Tools Project (WTP) following a release. It was noted that there appeared to be favorable conditions following a release to do this. Benefits were noted, including increased synergy organizationally with the codebase the VTP already relies on. It was asked if there would be increased benefits such as JSP compatibility with VoiceXML, but it was explained that the functionality already exists and that code-wise the functionality from WTP would stay the same. The consensus on the call was that moving to WTP would be a positive step for the project's evolution. It was noted that the success of WTP could lead to increased exposure for the VTP. The browser API was discussed and several problems with the passing of parameters and the UI display were discussed. It was noted that this code was the least mature in the milestone. Solutions to the problems addressed were discussed and it was resolved to open a bugzilla defect to track the issue while development progressed in the coming week. The call ended with a note that the browser API continues to need further testing. One caller noted that their development team would be evaluating the API to determine its usefullness. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007139EA852570A0_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

October 20, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Joe Oh, Audium
Brent D. Metz, IBM
John Buttito, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe
Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie

The call began with a summary of the state of the project. It was noted that development on features planned for the
1.0 release had not begun and that multiple committers have been unable to provide a firm schedule for development on
the project. In light of these facts it was proposed that the release be scaled down to a more containable feature set
surrounding the existing code base and improvement of the execution API. A participant agreed that this appeared to be the
prudent move. Another caller noted that the browser API would be in particular the most important part that they would find
useful. A revised milestone plan draft was said to be a next step and would be sent to the vtp-dev mailing list.

The project status continued with a discussion of a possible move to the Web Tools Project (WTP) following a release. It
was noted that there appeared to be favorable conditions following a release to do this. Benefits were noted, including
increased synergy organizationally with the codebase the VTP already relies on. It was asked if there would be increased
benefits such as JSP compatibility with VoiceXML, but it was explained that the functionality already exists and that
code-wise the functionality from WTP would stay the same. The consensus on the call was that moving to WTP would be a
positive step for the project's evolution. It was noted that the success of WTP could lead to increased exposure for the
VTP.

The browser API was discussed and several problems with the passing of parameters and the UI display were discussed. It was
noted that this code was the least mature in the milestone. Solutions to the problems addressed were discussed and it was
resolved to open a bugzilla defect to track the issue while development progressed in the coming week.

The call ended with a note that the browser API continues to need further testing. One caller noted that their development
team would be evaluating the API to determine its usefullness.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007139EA852570A0_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Oct 26 16:03:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0B781302C for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9QK3AWu031414 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:03:10 -0400 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j9QK3AtF211704 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:03:10 -0600 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9QK3Awo012256 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:03:10 -0600 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9QK3Auw012253 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:03:10 -0600 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:05:09 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 10/26/2005 14:05:12, Serialize complete at 10/26/2005 14:05:12 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006C5976852570A6_=" Cc: NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 27 October Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:03:14 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006C5976852570A6_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Execution UI development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006C5976852570A6_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, October 27, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Execution UI development discussion

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 006C5976852570A6_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Oct 31 14:10:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A50213004 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9VJA4qj000534 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:10:04 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id j9VJB7v3543586 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:11:07 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9VJA4mT019825 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:10:04 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9VJA4bo019817 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:10:04 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:12:12 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 10/31/2005 12:12:13, Serialize complete at 10/31/2005 12:12:13 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00692E6B852570AB_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Revised milestone plan X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:10:05 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00692E6B852570AB_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, Per the discussion on the development call, I have revised our milestone plan for a first release: http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html Please take a look and provide feedback. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00692E6B852570AB_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

Per the discussion on the development call, I have revised our milestone plan for a first release:

http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html

Please take a look and provide feedback.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00692E6B852570AB_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Nov 2 17:01:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80A26AFEC for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA2M1h2B015874 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:01:43 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jA2M2l1K535524 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:02:47 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA2M1gYV017284 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:01:42 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA2M1gQJ017281 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:01:42 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:03:52 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 11/02/2005 15:03:54, Serialize complete at 11/02/2005 15:03:54 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00790DA7852570AD_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 3 November Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:01:49 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00790DA7852570AD_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, November 3, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of milestone plan 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00790DA7852570AD_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, November 3, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of milestone plan
3) Development discussion

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00790DA7852570AD_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Nov 3 12:54:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E04F5539 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA3HsdDl022648 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:54:39 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id jA3Hsd8v533108 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:54:39 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA3HsdMv022007 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:54:39 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA3Hsdr2022004 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:54:39 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:56:52 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 11/03/2005 10:56:53, Serialize complete at 11/03/2005 10:56:53 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00625D66852570AE_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: November 3, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:54:40 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00625D66852570AE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes November 3, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Brent D. Metz, IBM Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry John Buttito, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie The call began with a discussion of the milestone draft plan. The next milestone was highlighted in detail and the general timeframe was explained. There were no comments on the plan. A summary of the previous week's development activity was stated. It was noted that bugs had been fixed and that the execution API was maturing. Comments were invited on the API but it was stated that the API does not appear to have any flaws preventing it from use in the industry at this point. The use of Bugzilla was noted and it was suggested that in the future all activity regarding changes should use bugzilla. It was stated that a user-oriented VTP article was requested and a request for participation was issued. It was noted that an article should ideally coincide with the next milestone to be in place for a release. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00625D66852570AE_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

November 3, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent D. Metz, IBM
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
John Buttito, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe
Derek Barnes, VoiceGenie

The call began with a discussion of the milestone draft plan. The next milestone was highlighted in detail and the general
timeframe was explained. There were no comments on the plan.

A summary of the previous week's development activity was stated. It was noted that bugs had been fixed and that the execution
API was maturing. Comments were invited on the API but it was stated that the API does not appear to have any flaws preventing
it from use in the industry at this point. The use of Bugzilla was noted and it was suggested that in the future all activity
regarding changes should use bugzilla.

It was stated that a user-oriented VTP article was requested and a request for participation was issued. It was noted that an
article should ideally coincide with the next milestone to be in place for a release.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00625D66852570AE_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Nov 9 16:21:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FA50C559 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA9LLoZd017671 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:21:50 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jA9LLkxP069284 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:21:46 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA9LLoo1022484 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:21:50 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA9LLnKF022470 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:21:50 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:24:10 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 11/09/2005 14:24:12, Serialize complete at 11/09/2005 14:24:12 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00755821852570B4_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 10 November Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:22:06 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00755821852570B4_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of milestone plan 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00755821852570B4_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, November 10, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of milestone plan
3) Development discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00755821852570B4_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Nov 10 16:02:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C31D15687 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAAL2BwU027828 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:02:11 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jAAL25hE047196 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:02:05 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAAL2AVs030318 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:02:10 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAAL2AYT030311 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:02:10 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:04:34 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 11/10/2005 14:04:35, Serialize complete at 11/10/2005 14:04:35 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007333B2852570B5_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: November 10, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:02:13 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007333B2852570B5_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes November 10, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Brent D. Metz, IBM Joe Oh, Audium Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry John Buttito, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie The call began with a discussion of recent development activity. It was stated that several bugs present in bugzilla had been resolved and that new functionality to properly report the dirty state of the contributed UI elements in the launch configuration dialog had been added. A discussion was held regarding a VTP standardized input view in the project. The topic of whether or not a log view was necessary as part of that view or if the Eclipse standard console view was sufficient. Several participants noted that they produce complex data and would welcome functionality such as table-based view of their log data and log detail filtering. It was asked whether or not standardization efforts would be relevant to the design of such a log view. It was noted that the current efforts in the speech community under the VoiceXML Forum Tools Subcommittee relate to analysis of log information and do not necessarily apply to realtime log viewing. The topic of the input view continued with a discussion of the possible functions available in the view. DTMF input was cited as functionality that would be present and semantic interpretation and a simple text input field were also listed as possibilities. It was noted that for every method of input available in the view a capability flag would have to be exposed by the browser implementing the API to let the view know whether or not to expose a piece of function. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007333B2852570B5_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

November 10, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent D. Metz, IBM
Joe Oh, Audium
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
John Buttito, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe
Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie

The call began with a discussion of recent development activity. It was stated that several bugs present in bugzilla
had been resolved and that new functionality to properly report the dirty state of the contributed UI elements in
the launch configuration dialog had been added.

A discussion was held regarding a VTP standardized input view in the project. The topic of whether or not a log
view was necessary as part of that view or if the Eclipse standard console view was sufficient. Several participants
noted that they produce complex data and would welcome functionality such as table-based view of their log data and
log detail filtering. It was asked whether or not standardization efforts would be relevant to the design of such
a log view. It was noted that the current efforts in the speech community under the VoiceXML Forum Tools Subcommittee
relate to analysis of log information and do not necessarily apply to realtime log viewing.

The topic of the input view continued with a discussion of the possible functions available in the view. DTMF input
was cited as functionality that would be present and semantic interpretation and a simple text input field were also
listed as possibilities. It was noted that for every method of input available in the view a capability flag would
have to be exposed by the browser implementing the API to let the view know whether or not to expose a piece of
function.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007333B2852570B5_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Nov 16 15:33:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B86E813B48 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAGKX786029651 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:33:07 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jAGKYNie038740 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:34:23 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAGKX6if025187 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:33:06 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAGKX6pQ025181 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:33:06 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:35:35 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Build V70_08142005|August 14, 2005) at 11/16/2005 13:35:36, Serialize complete at 11/16/2005 13:35:36 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00708C38852570BB_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 17 November Eclipse Voice Tools Developm X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:33:09 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00708C38852570BB_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, November 3, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of milestone plan 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00708C38852570BB_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:

Thursday, November 3, 2005
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers:  
   866-650-8398  (toll free within US)
   210-516-7928 (toll call within US)
Passcode: 4075904

Proposed Agenda:

1) Roll call
2) Review of milestone plan
3) Development discussion

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00708C38852570BB_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Nov 23 22:31:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B33215C0D for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAO3VXwl032052 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:31:33 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jAO3VAeq102706 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:31:10 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAO3VXXE012559 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:31:33 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAO3VXxj012556 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:31:33 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:34:04 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF60 | October 19, 2005) at 11/23/2005 20:34:04, Serialize complete at 11/23/2005 20:34:04 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00135D6A852570C3_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] No call for November 24 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:31:34 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00135D6A852570C3_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Due to the Thanksgiving holiday in the US there will not be a development call on Thusday, November 24. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00135D6A852570C3_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Due to the Thanksgiving holiday in the US there will not be a development call on Thusday, November 24.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00135D6A852570C3_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Nov 28 14:22:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4052F15CF1 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jASJMVhf011314 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:22:31 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jASJM2Ch045124 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:22:02 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jASJMVd5023324 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:22:31 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jASJMVkw023319 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:22:31 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:25:03 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF60 | October 19, 2005) at 11/28/2005 12:25:04, Serialize complete at 11/28/2005 12:25:04 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006A7F11852570C7_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] EclipseCon presentation X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:22:32 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006A7F11852570C7_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I noticed the EclipseCon deadlines are December 1 for Long talks, February 1 for Short talks and March 1 for table talks. If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to do some kind of joint presentation. I'm not sure if we can fill an hour for a long talk but the short talks seem too short. If we did a long talk I suspect a lot of the talk would be introducing the people in the audience to VoiceXML and modern speech-enabled IVRs. To me, the lunch tables seem just right in terms of audience size and length of presentation. Perhaps the half-hour demos may be a good fit as well. There is some information here: http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/CallForParticipation.do -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006A7F11852570C7_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I noticed the EclipseCon deadlines are December 1 for Long talks, February 1 for Short talks and March 1 for table talks. If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to do some kind of joint presentation. I'm not sure if we can fill an hour for a long talk but the short talks seem too short. If we did a long talk I suspect a lot of the talk would be introducing the people in the audience to VoiceXML and modern speech-enabled IVRs. To me, the lunch tables seem just right in terms of audience size and length of presentation. Perhaps the half-hour demos may be a good fit as well.

There is some information here:

http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/CallForParticipation.do

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 006A7F11852570C7_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Nov 30 16:12:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E28913FB9 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAULCIGI003221 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:12:18 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jAULBkGt079190 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:11:46 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAULCIfk007957 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:12:18 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAULCIpX007950 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:12:18 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:14:52 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF60 | October 19, 2005) at 11/30/2005 14:14:51, Serialize complete at 11/30/2005 14:14:51 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00748C40852570C9_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 1 December Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:12:19 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00748C40852570C9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, December 1, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of milestone plan 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00748C40852570C9_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday, December 1, 2005

11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Review of milestone plan
3) Development discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00748C40852570C9_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Dec 1 14:07:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81FA61618C for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB1J7RSq014720 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:07:27 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jB1J6rSI101730 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:06:53 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB1J7Q7V032580 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:07:27 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB1J7Q96032562 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:07:26 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:10:00 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF60 | October 19, 2005) at 12/01/2005 12:10:00, Serialize complete at 12/01/2005 12:10:00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0068D5C9852570CA_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: December 1, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:07:37 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0068D5C9852570CA_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes December 1, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Brent Metz, IBM Chris Kramp, SandCherry Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Mike Greenawalt, TellMe Networks The call began with a discussion of the status of the projecs. It was noted that a contribution is being prepared for donation to the project. A summary of the code changes to the VTP source tree was given. The DTMF input view and log event display were discussed. The input view was said to be in a finished state and awaiting additional eventing code to recieve log events. A discussion of a future possible move to WTP was held. A participant asked if would cause the VTP to be 'lost' in the larger project. The response was that the VTP integrating into the WTP would likely cause it to keep in mind non-HTML input methodologies when designing APIs. The call wrapped up with a discussion of a release review to publish VTP 1.0. The need to demonstrate an ecosystem of users and contributors was brought up. Participants on the call volunteered to attend a release review to lend their support for the project. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0068D5C9852570CA_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

December 1, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent Metz, IBM
Chris Kramp, SandCherry
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Mike Greenawalt, TellMe Networks

The call began with a discussion of the status of the projecs. It was noted that a contribution is
being prepared for donation to the project. A summary of the code changes to the VTP source tree was given.
The DTMF input view and log event display were discussed. The input view was said to be in a finished state
and awaiting additional eventing code to recieve log events.

A discussion of a future possible move to WTP was held. A participant asked if would cause the VTP to be 'lost'
in the larger project. The response was that the VTP integrating into the WTP would likely cause it to keep in
mind non-HTML input methodologies when designing APIs.

The call wrapped up with a discussion of a release review to publish VTP 1.0. The need to demonstrate an ecosystem of
users and contributors was brought up. Participants on the call volunteered to attend a release review to
lend their support for the project.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0068D5C9852570CA_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Dec 7 20:13:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A22F14341 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:13:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB81DY7f024805 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:13:34 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jB81F8Sn096876 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:15:08 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB81DXSG015232 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:13:34 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB81DXtK015229 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:13:33 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:16:09 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/07/2005 18:16:09, Serialize complete at 12/07/2005 18:16:09 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0006B93D852570D1_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 8 December Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 01:13:38 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0006B93D852570D1_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, December 8, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Review of milestone plan 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0006B93D852570D1_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday, December 8, 2005

11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Review of milestone plan
3) Development discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0006B93D852570D1_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Dec 8 11:51:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40522FA1D for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB8Gp7FW023398 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:51:07 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jB8GqfUI082502 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:52:41 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB8Gp69I018637 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:51:06 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB8Gp6NI018615 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:51:06 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:53:40 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/08/2005 09:53:41, Serialize complete at 12/08/2005 09:53:41 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005C9F4D852570D1_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: December 8, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:51:14 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005C9F4D852570D1_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes December 8, 2005, 11am EST Attendees: Brent Metz, IBM Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Mike Greenawalt, TellMe Networks Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie The call began with a discussion of the status of the projecs. It was noted that a copy of the code to be donated to the Voice Tools Project was given to the Eclipse Foundation's lawyer to review. It was noted that this process should only take a week or two since it is an EPL submission but could potentially delay the next milestone. The milestone was said to be otherwise near completion. The status of the project's progress through the eclipse development processes was outlined. A plan was discussed to meet with the Web Tools PMC and obtain their support ahead of a Technology PMC release review for a first release of the VTP. A question was raised regarding the ability to continue evolving a submission past being given to the Eclipse Foundation's lawyer for review. It was taken as an issue to follow up on. The call ended with discussion of the status of the transition of the XML editors from the WTP 0.7 release to WTP 1.0. It was noted that this work will not make the next milestone but will be available for the release candidate. A caller mentioned their team had performed the work recently and offered to provide advice. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 005C9F4D852570D1_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

December 8, 2005, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent Metz, IBM
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Mike Greenawalt, TellMe Networks
Andrew Wahbe, VoiceGenie

The call began with a discussion of the status of the projecs. It was noted that a copy of the code to be donated to
the Voice Tools Project was given to the Eclipse Foundation's lawyer to review. It was noted that this process should
only take a week or two since it is an EPL submission but could potentially delay the next milestone. The
milestone was said to be otherwise near completion.

The status of the project's progress through the eclipse development processes was outlined. A plan was discussed to
meet with the Web Tools PMC and obtain their support ahead of a Technology PMC release review for a first release of
the VTP.

A question was raised regarding the ability to continue evolving a submission past being given to the Eclipse
Foundation's lawyer for review. It was taken as an issue to follow up on.

The call ended with discussion of the status of the transition of the XML editors from the WTP 0.7 release to WTP 1.0.
It was noted that this work will not make the next milestone but will be available for the release candidate. A caller
mentioned their team had performed the work recently and offered to provide advice.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 005C9F4D852570D1_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Dec 14 11:50:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FDE37C1 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBEGoks3026429 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:50:46 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jBEGqQGC062692 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:52:26 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBEGokdL006205 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:50:46 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBEGoksf006199 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:50:46 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID:

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:53:22 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/14/2005 09:53:22, Serialize complete at 12/14/2005 09:53:22 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005C87BF852570D7_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 15 December Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:50:58 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005C87BF852570D7_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Milestone progress update 3) Development update 4) Browser API overview -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 005C87BF852570D7_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday, December 15, 2005

11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Milestone progress update
3) Development update

4) Browser API overview


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 005C87BF852570D7_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Dec 14 19:03:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3688913FEAF for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBF03Sck011363 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:03:28 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jBF02bp9087708 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:02:37 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBF03Rxu013353 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:03:27 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBF03RWJ013350 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:03:27 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:06:04 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/14/2005 17:06:04, Serialize complete at 12/14/2005 17:06:04 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00004CD4852570D8_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] New log class and Eventing API examples X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:03:29 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00004CD4852570D8_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, I checked in a new class, VoiceXMLLogMessage, which allows simple log messages to be communicated to the input view for display. Logs can be communicated by throwing a Debug Event such as shown below in a simple implementation of the IVoiceXMLBrowser's sendInput() method: public void sendInput(VoiceXMLBrowserInput input) { DebugEvent event[] = new DebugEvent[1]; event[0] = new DebugEvent(this, DebugEvent.MODEL_SPECIFIC, IVoiceXMLBrowserConstants.EVENT_LOG_MESSAGE); if (input.getInputType()==VoiceXMLBrowserInput.TYPE_DTMF) { event[0].setData(new VoiceXMLLogMessage(new Date(), "Got DTMF " + input.getInput())); } else { event[0].setData(new VoiceXMLLogMessage(new Date(), "Got some other input")); } DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet(event); } I've also added a method setProcess(VoiceXMLBrowserProcess process) to the IVoiceXMLBrowser interface. This allows access to the IProcess and through it the ILaunch object to throw additional events, notably the TERMINATE event to notify the UI that the Browser has finished. An example of how to do this is: DebugEvent event[] = new DebugEvent[1]; event[0] = new DebugEvent(process.getLaunch(), DebugEvent.TERMINATE); DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet(event); The launch object can also be referenced as the source of other events, such as the CHANGE event, to signify that something in the browser has changed, such as the input state. The input view supplied with the VTP listens for CHANGE events and will refresh the UI as needed based on the browser's current set of capabilities returned by IVoiceXMLBrowser.hasCapability(). -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00004CD4852570D8_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

I checked in a new class, VoiceXMLLogMessage, which allows simple log messages to be communicated to the input view for display. Logs can be communicated by throwing a Debug Event such as shown below in a simple implementation of the IVoiceXMLBrowser's sendInput() method:

        public void sendInput(VoiceXMLBrowserInput input) {                
                DebugEvent event[] = new DebugEvent[1];
                event[0] = new DebugEvent(this, DebugEvent.MODEL_SPECIFIC, IVoiceXMLBrowserConstants.EVENT_LOG_MESSAGE);
                if (input.getInputType()==VoiceXMLBrowserInput.TYPE_DTMF) {
                        event[0].setData(new VoiceXMLLogMessage(new Date(), "Got DTMF " + input.getInput()));
                } else {
                        event[0].setData(new VoiceXMLLogMessage(new Date(), "Got some other input"));
                }
                DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet(event);
        }

I've also added a method setProcess(VoiceXMLBrowserProcess process) to the IVoiceXMLBrowser interface. This allows access to the IProcess and through it the ILaunch object to throw additional events, notably the TERMINATE event to notify the UI that the Browser has finished. An example of how to do this is:

DebugEvent event[] = new DebugEvent[1];
event[0] = new DebugEvent(process.getLaunch(), DebugEvent.TERMINATE);
DebugPlugin.getDefault().fireDebugEventSet(event);

The launch object can also be referenced as the source of other events, such as the CHANGE event, to signify that something in the browser has changed, such as the input state. The input view supplied with the VTP listens for CHANGE events and will refresh the UI as needed based on the browser's current set of capabilities returned by IVoiceXMLBrowser.hasCapability().

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00004CD4852570D8_=-- From rO4/QeKLNeO1YBRU@DyEK8am0zUgOixs0 Fri Dec 16 17:11:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from savgw1.sccorp.com (savgw1.sandcherry.com [205.158.232.68]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DB0214ED2 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from EXCHANGE.sccorp.com ([10.20.1.33]) by savgw1.sccorp.com (SMSSMTP 4.1.4.30) with SMTP id M2005121615111611768 ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:11:16 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6028D.A276218A" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:11:15 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) Thread-Index: AcYB8OBohYTdGHadSz21Ja+PDnzdpwAZMMDA From: "Jeff Pedigo" To: "Brent D Metz" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] RE: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:11:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6028D.A276218A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Brent, =20 Thanks for the quick response. I agree that your suggestion is a good way to extend the VoiceXMLBrowserInput API if no other changes are made. Your solution leaves me with the issue of how to handle the existing implementation of the setInput(String) method. It is reasonable to expect that developers will code to that API. So I will need to implement a usable, extended version of that method to stay compatible.=20 =20 In the end, given that no change is made to the API, I will implement some sort of technique to serialize/deserialize to a String in order to use the specified API. I doubt that I will try to extend the API with new methods since they would only be of use to internal versions of our code. =20 To be clear, my issues can be summed up more generically as: =20 a) no separation between interface and implementation of VoiceXMLBrowserInput b) no support for complex data in setInput(String) =20 I would appreciate greatly the OPAQUE or VENDOR_SPECIFIC constant addition you propose. I think the latter constant name makes the most sense to me. =20 Best Regards, Jeff Pedigo 720-562-4558=20 ________________________________ From: Brent D Metz [mailto:kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:32 PM To: Jeff Pedigo Subject: Re: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) Hi,=20 Glad to see the VTP is on your mind today. Feel free to cc: the list; even if doesn't turn out to do anything but provide notes on the API so someone will have something to read through on the subject when they browse the archive. I think I might not have been clear what I meant on the call; I was suggesting subclassing the object to add an all-new method to handle passing non-generic objects, ie:=20 public class SandCherryBrowserInput extends VoiceXMLBrowserInput {=20 protected Serializable mySerializedObject;=20 public void setCustomInput(Serializable s) {=20 mySerializedObject=3Ds;=20 }=20 public Serializable getCustomInput() {=20 return mySerializedObject;=20 }=20 }=20 When inputs came into sendinput() you could use instanceof to see if it's sending data types that are sandcherry-specific, and if not process DTMF and other inputs from other sources as you want to implement.=20 Would this provide what you're looking for? The alternative is to change the setInput() method to accept Serializable or just generic Object types instead of a string, then add a predefined type OPAQUE or VENDOR_SPECIFIC or something to that effect. The thing that would be a little tricky is if two implementations independently made some assumption about using the Object passed in, ie if two implementations pass in a vector and assume it contains different things. If someone's client control wants to talk in a specific way to its backend I think the safest route would be for them to explicitly only send the data to their own object by checking using instanceof, and at that point they might as well cast it to their own object and call their own custom functions. Actually it isn't even necessary to use VoiceXMLBrowserInput subclasses; it's just as conceivable to directly implement a new function in the implementation of IVoiceXMLBrowser that directly took the custom input as well.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay=20 "Jeff Pedigo" =20 12/15/2005 06:38 PM=20 To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS=20 cc Subject A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) =09 Hi Brent,=20 =20 During our 12/15/05 VTP Conference call I questioned the implementation of org.eclipse.vtp.launching.VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String). I wanted to clarify my issue and make a suggestion on how I think the implementation could be improved.=20 =20 First, I am proposing the following:=20 =20 a) define an interface that defines the constants and methods you have implemented in VoiceXMLBrowserInput=20 b) change the method setInput(String) to setInput(Serializable) in both the new interface and the implementing class=20 =20 This would allow us to send any sort of complex objects from the Eclipse to the VoiceBrowser and would keep your existing implementation largely intact.=20 =20 My issues can be summed up as:=20 =20 a) I don't want to override or expose a setInput(String) method since we won't end up using it to send our input=20 b) I don't want to serialize to a String at this level (it is being serialized at a much lower level in our Eclipse-to-Browser protocol)=20 =20 I'm happy to post these comments on the mailing list but wanted to float them by you first to minimize any public confusion.=20 =20 Best Regards,=20 Jeff Pedigo=20 720-562-4558=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6028D.A276218A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Brent,
 
Thanks for the quick response. I agree that = your=20 suggestion is a good way to extend the VoiceXMLBrowserInput API if = no other=20 changes are made. Your solution leaves me with the issue of how to = handle=20 the existing implementation of the setInput(String) method. It is=20 reasonable to expect that developers will code to that API. So I will = need to=20 implement a usable, extended version of that method to stay compatible.=20
 
In the end, given that no change is = made to=20 the API, I will  implement some sort of technique to=20 serialize/deserialize to a String in order to use the specified API. I = doubt=20 that I will try to extend the API with new methods since they = would=20 only be of use to internal versions of our code.
 
To be clear, my issues can be summed up more=20 generically as:
 
a) no separation between interface and = implementation=20 of VoiceXMLBrowserInput
b) no support for complex data in=20 setInput(String)
 
I=20 would appreciate greatly the OPAQUE or VENDOR_SPECIFIC constant addition = you=20 propose. I think the latter constant name makes the most sense to=20 me.
 
Best Regards,
Jeff Pedigo
720-562-4558 =


From: Brent D Metz = [mailto:kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ]=20
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:32 PM
To: Jeff=20 Pedigo
Subject: Re: A follow-up on our discussion about=20 VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String)


Hi,

Glad to see the VTP is on your mind today. = Feel free to=20 cc: the list; even if doesn't turn out to do anything but provide notes = on the=20 API so someone will have something to read through on the subject when = they=20 browse the archive. I think I might not have been clear what I meant on = the=20 call; I was suggesting subclassing the object to add an all-new method = to handle=20 passing non-generic objects, ie:

public class SandCherryBrowserInput extends = VoiceXMLBrowserInput {=20
    protected = Serializable=20 mySerializedObject;

   =20 public void setCustomInput(Serializable s) {
        mySerializedObject=3Ds; =
    }


    public Serializable getCustomInput() { =
        return=20 mySerializedObject;

  =  =20 }
}

When inputs came into sendinput() you could use instanceof to = see if it's=20 sending data types that are sandcherry-specific, and if not process DTMF = and=20 other inputs from other sources as you want to implement. =

Would this provide what you're looking for? = The=20 alternative is to change the setInput() method to accept Serializable or = just=20 generic Object types instead of a string, then add a predefined type = OPAQUE or=20 VENDOR_SPECIFIC or something to that effect. The thing that would be a = little=20 tricky is if two implementations independently made some assumption = about using=20 the Object passed in, ie if two implementations pass in a vector and = assume it=20 contains different things. If someone's client control wants to talk in = a=20 specific way to its backend I think the safest route would be for them = to=20 explicitly only send the data to their own object by checking using = instanceof,=20 and at that point they might as well cast it to their own object and = call their=20 own custom functions. Actually it isn't even necessary to use=20 VoiceXMLBrowserInput subclasses; it's just as conceivable to directly = implement=20 a new function in the implementation of IVoiceXMLBrowser that directly = took the=20 custom input as well.

--
Brent D.=20 Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things = should be=20 simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
=


"Jeff Pedigo"=20 <rO4/QeKLNeO1YBRU@DyEK8am0zUgOixs0>

12/15/2005 06:38 PM =

To
Brent D = Metz/Boca=20 Raton/IBM@IBMUS=20
cc
Subject
A follow-up = on our=20 discussion about=20 = VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String)

=




Hi Brent,
 
During our 12/15/05 VTP Conference call I questioned the = implementation=20 of org.eclipse.vtp.launching.VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String). I = wanted to=20 clarify my issue and make a suggestion on how I think the implementation = could=20 be improved.
 
First, I am proposing the following:
 
a) define an = interface that=20 defines the constants and methods you have implemented in=20 VoiceXMLBrowserInput
b) change = the method=20 setInput(String) to setInput(Serializable) in both the new interface and = the=20 implementing class
 
This would allow us to send any sort of complex objects from = the Eclipse=20 to the VoiceBrowser and would keep your existing implementation largely=20 intact.
 
My=20 issues can be summed up as:
  =
a) I don't want to override or expose a = setInput(String)=20 method since we won't end up using it to send our input
b) I don't want to serialize to a String at this = level (it is=20 being serialized at a much lower level in our Eclipse-to-Browser=20 protocol)
 
I'm=20 happy to post these comments on the mailing list but wanted to float = them by you=20 first to minimize any public confusion.
 =20
Best Regards,
Jeff Pedigo
720-562-4558=20
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6028D.A276218A-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Dec 16 17:40:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7603114ED2 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBGMeR6o007722 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:40:27 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jBGMg8kP111566 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:42:08 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBGMeQgR006689 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:40:26 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBGMeQrN006685 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:40:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "Jeff Pedigo" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:43:02 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/16/2005 15:43:04, Serialize complete at 12/16/2005 15:43:04 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007C278D852570D9_=" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] RE: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:40:31 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007C278D852570D9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sounds reasonable. I've changed setInput()/getInput() to deal with Objects instead of String, added TYPE_VENDOR_SPECIFIC as one of the input types and added guidance in the javadoc to warn against using generic objects as the input in that case. Let us know if you see anything else! -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Jeff Pedigo" 12/16/2005 05:11 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject RE: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) Hi Brent, Thanks for the quick response. I agree that your suggestion is a good way to extend the VoiceXMLBrowserInput API if no other changes are made. Your solution leaves me with the issue of how to handle the existing implementation of the setInput(String) method. It is reasonable to expect that developers will code to that API. So I will need to implement a usable, extended version of that method to stay compatible. In the end, given that no change is made to the API, I will implement some sort of technique to serialize/deserialize to a String in order to use the specified API. I doubt that I will try to extend the API with new methods since they would only be of use to internal versions of our code. To be clear, my issues can be summed up more generically as: a) no separation between interface and implementation of VoiceXMLBrowserInput b) no support for complex data in setInput(String) I would appreciate greatly the OPAQUE or VENDOR_SPECIFIC constant addition you propose. I think the latter constant name makes the most sense to me. Best Regards, Jeff Pedigo 720-562-4558 From: Brent D Metz [mailto:kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:32 PM To: Jeff Pedigo Subject: Re: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) Hi, Glad to see the VTP is on your mind today. Feel free to cc: the list; even if doesn't turn out to do anything but provide notes on the API so someone will have something to read through on the subject when they browse the archive. I think I might not have been clear what I meant on the call; I was suggesting subclassing the object to add an all-new method to handle passing non-generic objects, ie: public class SandCherryBrowserInput extends VoiceXMLBrowserInput { protected Serializable mySerializedObject; public void setCustomInput(Serializable s) { mySerializedObject=s; } public Serializable getCustomInput() { return mySerializedObject; } } When inputs came into sendinput() you could use instanceof to see if it's sending data types that are sandcherry-specific, and if not process DTMF and other inputs from other sources as you want to implement. Would this provide what you're looking for? The alternative is to change the setInput() method to accept Serializable or just generic Object types instead of a string, then add a predefined type OPAQUE or VENDOR_SPECIFIC or something to that effect. The thing that would be a little tricky is if two implementations independently made some assumption about using the Object passed in, ie if two implementations pass in a vector and assume it contains different things. If someone's client control wants to talk in a specific way to its backend I think the safest route would be for them to explicitly only send the data to their own object by checking using instanceof, and at that point they might as well cast it to their own object and call their own custom functions. Actually it isn't even necessary to use VoiceXMLBrowserInput subclasses; it's just as conceivable to directly implement a new function in the implementation of IVoiceXMLBrowser that directly took the custom input as well. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Jeff Pedigo" 12/15/2005 06:38 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String) Hi Brent, During our 12/15/05 VTP Conference call I questioned the implementation of org.eclipse.vtp.launching.VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String). I wanted to clarify my issue and make a suggestion on how I think the implementation could be improved. First, I am proposing the following: a) define an interface that defines the constants and methods you have implemented in VoiceXMLBrowserInput b) change the method setInput(String) to setInput(Serializable) in both the new interface and the implementing class This would allow us to send any sort of complex objects from the Eclipse to the VoiceBrowser and would keep your existing implementation largely intact. My issues can be summed up as: a) I don't want to override or expose a setInput(String) method since we won't end up using it to send our input b) I don't want to serialize to a String at this level (it is being serialized at a much lower level in our Eclipse-to-Browser protocol) I'm happy to post these comments on the mailing list but wanted to float them by you first to minimize any public confusion. Best Regards, Jeff Pedigo 720-562-4558 --=_alternative 007C278D852570D9_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Sounds reasonable. I've changed setInput()/getInput() to deal with Objects instead of String, added TYPE_VENDOR_SPECIFIC as one of the input types and added guidance in the javadoc to warn against using generic objects as the input in that case. Let us know if you see anything else!

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



"Jeff Pedigo" <rO4/QeKLNeO1YBRU@DyEK8am0zUgOixs0>

12/16/2005 05:11 PM

To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS
cc
<UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg>
Subject
RE: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String)





Hi Brent,
 
Thanks for the quick response. I agree that your suggestion is a good way to extend the VoiceXMLBrowserInput API if no other changes are made. Your solution leaves me with the issue of how to handle the existing implementation of the setInput(String) method. It is reasonable to expect that developers will code to that API. So I will need to implement a usable, extended version of that method to stay compatible.
 
In the end, given that no change is made to the API, I will  implement some sort of technique to serialize/deserialize to a String in order to use the specified API. I doubt that I will try to extend the API with new methods since they would only be of use to internal versions of our code.
 
To be clear, my issues can be summed up more generically as:
 
a) no separation between interface and implementation of VoiceXMLBrowserInput
b) no support for complex data in setInput(String)
 
I would appreciate greatly the OPAQUE or VENDOR_SPECIFIC constant addition you propose. I think the latter constant name makes the most sense to me.
 
Best Regards,
Jeff Pedigo
720-562-4558


From: Brent D Metz [mailto:kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ]
Sent:
Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:32 PM
To:
Jeff Pedigo
Subject:
Re: A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String)



Hi,


Glad to see the VTP is on your mind today. Feel free to cc: the list; even if doesn't turn out to do anything but provide notes on the API so someone will have something to read through on the subject when they browse the archive. I think I might not have been clear what I meant on the call; I was suggesting subclassing the object to add an all-new method to handle passing non-generic objects, ie:


public class SandCherryBrowserInput extends VoiceXMLBrowserInput {

   protected Serializable mySerializedObject;


   public void setCustomInput(Serializable s) {

       mySerializedObject=s;

   }


   public Serializable getCustomInput() {

       return mySerializedObject;

   }

}


When inputs came into sendinput() you could use instanceof to see if it's sending data types that are sandcherry-specific, and if not process DTMF and other inputs from other sources as you want to implement.


Would this provide what you're looking for? The alternative is to change the setInput() method to accept Serializable or just generic Object types instead of a string, then add a predefined type OPAQUE or VENDOR_SPECIFIC or something to that effect. The thing that would be a little tricky is if two implementations independently made some assumption about using the Object passed in, ie if two implementations pass in a vector and assume it contains different things. If someone's client control wants to talk in a specific way to its backend I think the safest route would be for them to explicitly only send the data to their own object by checking using instanceof, and at that point they might as well cast it to their own object and call their own custom functions. Actually it isn't even necessary to use VoiceXMLBrowserInput subclasses; it's just as conceivable to directly implement a new function in the implementation of IVoiceXMLBrowser that directly took the custom input as well.


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay


"Jeff Pedigo" <rO4/QeKLNeO1YBRU@DyEK8am0zUgOixs0>

12/15/2005 06:38 PM


To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS
cc
Subject
A follow-up on our discussion about VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String)







Hi Brent,

 
During our 12/15/05 VTP Conference call I questioned the implementation of org.eclipse.vtp.launching.VoiceXMLBrowserInput.setInput(String). I wanted to clarify my issue and make a suggestion on how I think the implementation could be improved.

 
First, I am proposing the following:

 
a) define an interface that defines the constants and methods you have implemented in VoiceXMLBrowserInput

b) change the method setInput(String) to setInput(Serializable) in both the new interface and the implementing class

 
This would allow us to send any sort of complex objects from the Eclipse to the VoiceBrowser and would keep your existing implementation largely intact.

 
My issues can be summed up as:

 
a) I don't want to override or expose a setInput(String) method since we won't end up using it to send our input

b) I don't want to serialize to a String at this level (it is being serialized at a much lower level in our Eclipse-to-Browser protocol)

 
I'm happy to post these comments on the mailing list but wanted to float them by you first to minimize any public confusion.

 
Best Regards,

Jeff Pedigo

720-562-4558

--=_alternative 007C278D852570D9_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Dec 21 23:42:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from over.ny.us.ibm.com (over.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 277E11533AF for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.249.43]) by pokfb.esmtp.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBM05pTA009328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:05:52 -0500 Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBM05pYk007355 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:05:51 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jBM04o09094314 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:04:50 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBM05ogk022739 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:05:50 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBM05oKK022733 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:05:50 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:08:28 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/21/2005 17:08:29, Serialize complete at 12/21/2005 17:08:29 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000087AA852570DF_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] No call Thursday, December 22 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:42:33 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000087AA852570DF_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, Due to holiday schedule conflicts there will not be a call on Thursday, December 22. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 000087AA852570DF_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

Due to holiday schedule conflicts there will not be a call on Thursday, December 22.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 000087AA852570DF_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Dec 22 13:09:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAF051548BD for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBMI8xih032573 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:08:59 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jBMI7w7G114798 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:07:58 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBMI8xfi003876 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:08:59 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBMI8xKa003860; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:08:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Ingmar Kliche MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:11:36 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/22/2005 11:11:38, Serialize complete at 12/22/2005 11:11:38 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0063AF03852570DF_=" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Re: Eclipse Voice Tools Project - VTP M2 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:09:02 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0063AF03852570DF_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, Unfortunately, the Eclipse Foundation have not yet approved TellMe's donation of code to automatically publish VoiceXML and execute it. Since this is a central piece of the M2 milestone, until the code is approved for integration in CVS we're in a bit of a holding pattern. I do not yet have a target date for this to occur but given the holidays I would estimate early january -- once the code is in we will have to perform a level of integration testing and bug fixing. I am hopeful that this will not impact the overall dates for the project at this time, but won't know for sure until we have the code into the repository. Thanks for the interest in the project and happy holidays! -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay Ingmar Kliche 12/22/2005 12:59 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject Eclipse Voice Tools Project - VTP M2 Hi Brent, the current milestone plan at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html annouces the VTP M2 for the 20th of December. Do you already know when M2 can be expected? Thanks and have a nice Christmas period -Ingmar --=_alternative 0063AF03852570DF_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

Unfortunately, the Eclipse Foundation have not yet approved TellMe's donation of code to automatically publish VoiceXML and execute it. Since this is a central piece of the M2 milestone, until the code is approved for integration in CVS we're in a bit of a holding pattern. I do not yet have a target date for this to occur but given the holidays I would estimate early january -- once the code is in we will have to perform a level of integration testing and bug fixing. I am hopeful that this will not impact the overall dates for the project at this time, but won't know for sure until we have the code into the repository.

Thanks for the interest in the project and happy holidays!

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



Ingmar Kliche <cmYKtfwf9e8sRswE@fhuhE7Xi+FbERVNo>

12/22/2005 12:59 PM

To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS
cc
Subject
Eclipse Voice Tools Project - VTP M2





Hi Brent,
 
the current milestone plan at
 
http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html
 
annouces the VTP M2 for the 20th of December. Do you already know when M2 can be expected?
 
Thanks and have a nice Christmas period
-Ingmar
--=_alternative 0063AF03852570DF_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Dec 29 00:38:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E28410B0D for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBT5cFIq032605 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:38:15 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jBT5e7Kp176098 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:40:07 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBT5cFwL000418 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:38:15 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBT5cF9h000415 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:38:15 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:40:55 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 12/28/2005 22:40:55, Serialize complete at 12/28/2005 22:40:55 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 001EF75F852570E6_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 29 December Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 05:38:22 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 001EF75F852570E6_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Milestone progress update 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 001EF75F852570E6_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday, December 29, 2005

11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Milestone progress update
3) Development discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 001EF75F852570E6_=-- From VW4/nUfIZep49w7T@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Dec 29 00:46:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71042164858 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBT5kuZj008222 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:46:56 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jBT5jkAG263372 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:45:46 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBT5kuPQ011925 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:46:56 -0700 Received: from d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.145]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBT5kuS3011920 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:46:56 -0700 From: Jeff Kobal To: Voice Tools general developers Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:49:13 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM119/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF654 | July 22, 2005) at 12/28/2005 22:49:15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; Boundary="0__=08BBFA75DF8C7E7E8f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFA75DF8C7E7E" Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [vtp-dev] Jeff Kobal/Boca Raton/IBM is out of the office. X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 05:46:58 -0000 --0__=08BBFA75DF8C7E7E8f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFA75DF8C7E7E Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I will be out of the office starting 12/23/2005 and will not return until 01/09/2006. I will respond to your message when I return. --0__=08BBFA75DF8C7E7E8f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFA75DF8C7E7E Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline

I will be out of the office starting 12/23/2005 and will not return until 01/09/2006.

I will respond to your message when I return. --0__=08BBFA75DF8C7E7E8f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFA75DF8C7E7E-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Jan 4 15:14:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4420716F20 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k04KEAO1031611 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:14:10 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k04KCqOx258450 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:12:52 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k04KEAtE018213 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:14:10 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k04KEAHS018209 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:14:10 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:16:52 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/04/2006 13:16:53, Serialize complete at 01/04/2006 13:16:53 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006F28C1852570EC_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 5 January Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:14:19 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006F28C1852570EC_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday,January 5, 2006 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Milestone progress update 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006F28C1852570EC_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday,January 5, 2006
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Milestone progress update
3) Development discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 006F28C1852570EC_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Jan 5 10:09:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0ECF111E8 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k05F9OU1029919 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:09:24 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k05FBN0N165280 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:11:23 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k05F972v003736 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:09:07 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k05F97Ns003388; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:09:07 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "Michael Greenawalt" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:11:47 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/05/2006 08:11:50, Serialize complete at 01/05/2006 08:11:50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00533A52852570ED_=" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Re: date/time format in input view X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:09:26 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00533A52852570ED_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I misunderstood you earlier -- seconds should definitely be there! That's=20 a defect and I just fixed it in CVS to HH:mm:ss.SSS.=20 This seems, in general, to be a design choice between letting browsers=20 send time data as a String or forcing them to create Date objects and=20 providing an ability to customize the display of that object. That=20 customization could be programmatic on the view or in a preference page.=20 Does anyone have any opinions on the matter they'd like to share? -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" =20 01/04/2006 05:51 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc "Randy Ray" Subject date/time format in input view Brent ? =20 I really, really, really would like to see the format for the date-time in = the log view table be changed to "HH:mm:ss"=20 =20 If you really want to see milliseconds, then ?HH:mm:ss.SSS? would be OK.=20 The format in there now does not show seconds at all, and I think folks=20 are more accustomed to time in 00-23 hours than 01-24 hours. =20 Or barring that, how about a setFormat() method that would let the=20 implementer set his own format? =20 -- Mike =20 =20 --=_alternative 00533A52852570ED_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I misunderstood you earlier -- secon= ds should definitely be there! That's a defect and I just fixed it in CVS to HH:mm:ss.SSS.

This seems, in general, to be a desi= gn choice between letting browsers send time data as a String or forcing them to create Date objects and providing an ability to customize the display of that object. That customization could be programmatic on the view or in a preference page. Does anyone have any opinions on the matter they'd like to share?

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay



"Michael Greenaw= alt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>

01/04/2006 05:51 PM

To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton= /IBM@IBMUS
cc
"Randy Ray" &= lt;pA4miS8U6FQmz1r7@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
Subject
date/time format in inp= ut view





Brent –
 
I really, really, really would like to see the format for the date-time in the log view table be changed to "HH:m= m:ss"
 
If you really want to see milliseconds, t= hen “HH:mm:ss.SSS” would be OK. The format in there now does not sh= ow seconds at all, and I think folks are more accustomed to time in 00-23 hours than 01-24 hours.
 
Or barring that, how about a setFormat() method that would let the implementer set his own format?
 
-- Mike
 
 
--=_alternative 00533A52852570ED_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Jan 6 11:45:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B49901754C0 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k06GjrQO017503 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:45:53 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k06GiW0o112178 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:44:32 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k06Gjq65020992 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:45:52 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k06GjqDr020973 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:45:52 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:48:36 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/06/2006 09:48:35, Serialize complete at 01/06/2006 09:48:35 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005C1579852570EE_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: January 5, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:45:56 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005C1579852570EE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes January 5, 2006, 11am EST Attendees: Brent D. Metz, IBM Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Chris Kramp, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, TellMe The call began with a discussion of the status of the project. It was stated that the TellMe submission is still going through the contribution evaluation process at the Eclipse Foundation and that a second milestone is delayed pending proper integration of the submission. Due to the delay of the second milestone it was noted that the release date of the project is very likely not going to be at the end of January. An update of the TellMe contribution was given. It was stated that bug fixes have continued while the evaluation process has been under way. The design of the log table in the input view was discussed. The merits and pitfalls of allowing the browser to send log event timestamps back as a String versus a Java Date object were discussed. The question of internationalization of time was raised and one participant noted that preferred time delimiters can vary by locale. It was agreed that the best solution would be to allow the user to customize the time display via a preference page. It was noted that the help should be reorganized to take advantage of the extra time to finish the milestone release while the legal process is ongoing. Callers were encouraged to evaluate the help and provide suggestions for improvement or write new sections. The need for tutorials in the integrated help was brought up. The daily build process was mentioned as having issues. A caller noted that builds were previously not being updated daily. It was agreed that the issue would be investigated immediately. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 005C1579852570EE_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

January 5, 2006, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent D. Metz, IBM
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Chris Kramp, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, TellMe

The call began with a discussion of the status of the project. It was stated that the TellMe submission is still
going through the contribution evaluation process at the Eclipse Foundation and that a second milestone is delayed
pending proper integration of the submission. Due to the delay of the second milestone it was noted that the release date
of the project is very likely not going to be at the end of January.

An update of the TellMe contribution was given. It was stated that bug fixes have continued while the evaluation
process has been under way.

The design of the log table in the input view was discussed. The merits and pitfalls of allowing the browser to send log
event timestamps back as a String versus a Java Date object were discussed. The question of internationalization of time
was raised and one participant noted that preferred time delimiters can vary by locale. It was agreed that the best
solution would be to allow the user to customize the time display via a preference page.

It was noted that the help should be reorganized to take advantage of the extra time to finish the milestone release while
the legal process is ongoing. Callers were encouraged to evaluate the help and provide suggestions for improvement or
write new sections. The need for tutorials in the integrated help was brought up.

The daily build process was mentioned as having issues. A caller noted that builds were previously not being updated daily.
It was agreed that the issue would be investigated immediately.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 005C1579852570EE_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jan 10 18:59:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B5F7155EA for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0ANx4pG001149 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:59:04 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0ANvb3i188602 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:57:37 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0ANx42Z027294 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:59:04 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0ANx4jJ027286 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:59:04 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:01:48 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/10/2006 17:01:48, Serialize complete at 01/10/2006 17:01:48 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0083BE54852570F2_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] TellMe Networks contribution, Multimodal Tools Project X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:59:05 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0083BE54852570F2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, It's with great pleasure that I announce two exciting developments for the Eclipse Voice Tools Project: - TellMe Networks has contributed an implementation of the VTP Browser APIs that allows any user to freely run VoiceXML code from within Eclipse. This code will be formally available in our next milestone but is already in CVS and compiled into the project daily builds available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/downloads.html. I'd like to thank Michael and Randy at TellMe for their hard work on this contribution and encourage you to download a build and try it out for yourself! - IBM has released the Multimodal Tools Project for Eclipse. This download builds on VTP M1's capabilities to create an XHTML+VoiceXML development environment. This release is a perfect example of the VTP's value as a base for speech tooling. For more information and to download a copy please visit http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/mmtp. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0083BE54852570F2_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

It's with great pleasure that I announce two exciting developments for the Eclipse Voice Tools Project:

- TellMe Networks has contributed an implementation of the VTP Browser APIs that allows any user to freely run VoiceXML code from within Eclipse. This code will be formally available in our next milestone but is already in CVS and compiled into the project daily builds available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/downloads.html. I'd like to thank Michael and Randy at TellMe for their hard work on this contribution and encourage you to download a build and try it out for yourself!

- IBM has released the Multimodal Tools Project for Eclipse. This download builds on VTP M1's capabilities to create an XHTML+VoiceXML development environment. This release is a perfect example of the VTP's value as a base for speech tooling. For more information and to download a copy please visit http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/mmtp.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0083BE54852570F2_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Tue Jan 10 20:01:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31608EB87 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2184F92C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0132C901 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6164A.813F071B" Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:01:07 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Tellme Browser - how to use it Thread-Index: AcYWSoDvd7MLa0eMQQG2YKiYERdGdw== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: Subject: [vtp-dev] Tellme Browser - how to use it X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:01:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6164A.813F071B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 How to use the Tellme VoiceXML Browser in Eclipse VTP With the VTP daily build from 9 January 2006, the VTP tools now include an application launcher that will allow the user to run his application on Tellme Studio. Please feel free to try this new feature and offer comment. We want this to be as useful as possible. Prerequisites: 1. You must have a version of the Eclipse Voice Tools Project that incorporates the Tellme Browser plugins. These plugins are in the VTP daily build. Please refer to the VTP website at http://eclipse.org/vtp for information and files to create an installation. 2. The Tellme Browser makes a phone call to Tellme Studio using the Skype VoIP phone, so your machine must have the Skype client installed, and you must be a registered Skype user. You will NOT have to purchase SkypeOut minutes to use the Tellme Browser. * download Skype from http://www.skype.com/products/skype/windows/ * run SkypeSetup.exe to install the client=20 * if you are not a registered Skype user, follow the instructions in the Skype client to sign up.=20 * configure Skype to start up and automatically log you in when Windows starts.=20 * operation has been confirmed with versions 1.3, 1.4, and 2.0 Beta of the Skype client for Windows. The Tellme Browser=20 The Tellme Browser is accessed from the Run menu of VTP. When the Run... command is chosen from the Run menu, a launch configuration dialog page is opened.=20 In the left-hand pane of that dialog there is a list of the various launch configuration types supported by your Eclipse installation. Select VoiceXML Application and click on the New button below the pane. A launch configuration page for the Tellme VoiceXML Browser will open. On that launch configuration page one specifies the user ID and PIN for Tellme Studio. One also specifies the URL of the application to be run. The Tellme Browser expects the VoiceXML application to be hosted on some web server. It can be any server to which you have access, though the development of this plugin was done using a copy of the Tomcat server co-located on the same machine as Eclipse VTP, and that works very conveniently.=20 When the Run button at the bottom of the launch configuration dialog is pressed, the Tellme Browser then:=20 * uses programmed HTTP calls to set Tellme Studio with your application URL=20 * places a call to Tellme Studio using the Skype client. The call is made to +18005558965 the Skype client will open its own window. Do not use it for DTMF, please. * automatically sends your Studio ID and PIN=20 * the Tellme Studio will assign an ID number for the call * waits for the call to complete successfully=20 * streams the debug log entries from Studio into an Eclipse VTP Browser input view=20 * the input view pane contains a table for showing the debug log, and it also offers a dialpad and a "stop" button If the Browser is unable to communicate with Studio for any reason, an error dialog will open giving a status message, and the launch will end. If the call fails for any reason, an error dialog will open showing the failure reason. =20 If it is necessary to end the call before the voice application is complete, it is best to use the Stop button that appears on the toolbar of the Browser Input View.=20 Sometimes the debug log streaming ends and the connection to Studio waits to time out. The call is not complete until an "End of Call" dialog box pops up that says "Call nnnn has completed." Please do not start another launch until a dialog appears, either the "End of Call" dialog or one that indicates some error. Issues you may encounter:=20 * The call via Skype is done via SkypeOut and routing of SkypeOut calls can be slow. It can take 30 seconds or more to route the call.=20 * The connection from Skype to +18005558965 can be flaky. The reason is understood, and we look forward to a future resolution. Sometimes the call will cause a "fast" busy signal, even though the line is truly not busy. When this happens, press the big red button in the Skype window. Try again. This is the one situation where you will need to press a button in the Skype window. * When Studio returns the debug log, there is a variable and sometimes significant delay before the data begins streaming into the table in the Input View. Be patient.=20 * timing is important. The Browser sends the ID and PIN to Studio shortly after the call is answered. Occasionally Studio response is delayed a bit and the ID and PIN are not heard. If this happens, you can enter your ID and PIN as usual by voice when Studio requests it. The call will proceed and the debug log will be streamed normally. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6164A.813F071B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

How to use the Tellme VoiceXML Browser in Eclipse = VTP

With the VTP daily = build from 9 January 2006, the VTP tools now include an application launcher = that will allow the user to run his application on Tellme Studio. Please feel = free to try this new feature and offer comment. We want this to be as useful = as possible.

Prerequisites:

1.  You must = have a version of the Eclipse Voice Tools Project that incorporates the Tellme = Browser plugins. These plugins are in the VTP daily = build.

Please refer to = the VTP website at http://eclipse.org/vtp for information and files to create an = installation.

2.  The Tellme Browser makes a = phone call to Tellme Studio using the Skype VoIP phone, so your machine must = have the Skype client installed, and you must be a registered Skype user. =  You will NOT have to purchase SkypeOut minutes to use the Tellme = Browser.

§          download Skype from = http://www.skype.com/products/skype/windows/

=

§          run SkypeSetup.exe to install the client

§          if you are not a registered Skype user, follow the instructions in the = Skype client to sign up.

§          configure Skype to start up and automatically log you in when Windows starts. =

§          operation has been confirmed with versions 1.3, 1.4, and 2.0 Beta of the Skype = client for Windows.

The Tellme Browser

The Tellme Browser is accessed from = the Run menu of VTP. When the Run… command is chosen from = the Run menu, a launch configuration = dialog page is opened.

In the left-hand pane of that dialog = there is a list of the various launch configuration types supported by your = Eclipse installation. Select VoiceXML = Application and click on the New button = below the pane. A launch configuration page for the Tellme VoiceXML Browser will = open.

On that launch configuration page one specifies the user ID and PIN for Tellme Studio. One also specifies the = URL of the application to be run. The Tellme Browser expects the VoiceXML = application to be hosted on some web server. It can be any server to which you have = access, though the development of this plugin was done using a copy of the = Tomcat server co-located on the same machine as Eclipse VTP, and that works = very conveniently.

When the Run button at the bottom of the launch configuration dialog is pressed, the = Tellme Browser then:

§          uses programmed HTTP calls to set Tellme Studio with your application URL =

§          places a call to Tellme Studio using the Skype client. The call is made to +18005558965

           = ; the Skype client will open its own window. Do not use it for DTMF, = please.

§          automatically= sends your Studio ID and PIN

§          the Tellme Studio will assign an ID number for the = call

§          waits for the call to complete successfully

§          streams the debug log entries from Studio into an Eclipse VTP Browser input view =

§          the input view pane contains a table for showing the debug log, and it also = offers a dialpad and a “stop” button

If the Browser is unable to communicate with Studio for any reason, an = error dialog will open giving a status message, and the launch will end. =

If the call fails for any reason, an = error dialog will open showing the failure reason. =  

If it is necessary to end the call = before the voice application is complete, it is best to use the Stop button that appears on the = toolbar of the Browser Input View.

Sometimes the debug log streaming = ends and the connection to Studio waits to time out. The call is not complete = until an “End of Call” dialog box pops up that says “Call nnnn = has completed.” Please do not start another launch until a dialog = appears, either the “End of Call” dialog or one that indicates some = error.

Issues you may encounter:

§          The call via Skype is done via SkypeOut and routing of SkypeOut calls can be = slow. It can take 30 seconds or more to route the call. =

§          The connection from Skype to +18005558965 can be flaky. The reason is = understood, and we look forward to a future resolution. Sometimes the call will = cause a “fast” busy signal, even though the line is truly not busy. When this happens, = press the big red button in the Skype window. Try again.  This is the one situation where you will need to press a button in the Skype = window.

§          When Studio returns the debug log, there is a variable and sometimes = significant delay before the data begins streaming into the table in the Input View. = Be patient.

§          timing is important. The Browser sends the ID and PIN to Studio shortly after = the call is answered. Occasionally Studio response is delayed a bit and the ID = and PIN are not heard. If this happens, you can enter your ID and PIN as usual = by voice when Studio requests it. The call will proceed and the debug log will be streamed normally.

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6164A.813F071B-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Jan 11 15:14:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2B901123E for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0BKErFf003753 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:14:53 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0BKGvX5178128 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:16:57 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0BKEru4017763 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:14:53 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0BKErrE017755 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:14:53 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF85 November 04, 2005 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:17:37 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/11/2006 13:17:38, Serialize complete at 01/11/2006 13:17:38 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006F34F3852570F3_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:14:54 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006F34F3852570F3_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I would like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committer. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he will make a great committer to the project. The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers: Derek Barnes Jeffrey Kobal Brent Metz [Approve] Clarence Nethery Jayant Thomas Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disapproval of the nomination. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006F34F3852570F3_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I would like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committer. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he will make a great committer to the project.

The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers:

Derek Barnes
Jeffrey Kobal
Brent Metz  [Approve]
Clarence Nethery
Jayant Thomas

Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disapproval of the nomination.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 006F34F3852570F3_=-- From VW4/nUfIZep49w7T@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Jan 11 15:28:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7052181963 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0BKSQ3T013633 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:28:26 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0BKUUX5161392 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:30:30 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0BKSPLY029775 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:28:26 -0700 Received: from d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.145]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0BKSPj5029768 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:28:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer To: Voice Tools general developers X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jeff Kobal Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:28:28 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM119/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF654 | July 22, 2005) at 01/11/2006 13:31:01 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/related; Boundary="0__=0ABBFA60DFE3F56F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE3F56F" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:28:29 -0000 --0__=0ABBFA60DFE3F56F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE3F56F Content-type: multipart/alternative; Boundary="1__=0ABBFA60DFE3F56F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE3F56F" --1__=0ABBFA60DFE3F56F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE3F56F Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I approve. Jeffrey S. Kobal - Senior Software Engineer Voice Tools Architect & Technical Lead IBM Boca Raton, 2nd Floor, Office 2157, Mail Drop 2157 (561) 862-2120, T/L 975-2120, e-mail: VW4/nUfIZep49w7T@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ = Brent D Metz/Boca = Raton/IBM@IBMUS = Sent by: = To vtp-dev-bounces@e UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg = clipse.org = cc = Subj= ect 01/11/2006 03:17 [vtp-dev] Nominate Michael = PM Greenawalt as Committer = = = Please respond to = Voice Tools = general = developers = = = Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I wo= uld like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committe= r. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a lar= ge percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writ= ing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he = will make a great committer to the project. The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers: Derek Barnes Jeffrey Kobal Brent Metz [Approve] Clarence Nethery Jayant Thomas Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disappr= oval of the nomination. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible.= " - Alan Kay_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev = --1__=0ABBFA60DFE3F56F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE3F56F Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

I approve.

Jeffrey S. Kobal - Senior Software Engineer
Voice Tools Architect & Technical Lead
IBM Boca Raton, 2nd Floor, Office 2157, Mail Drop 2157
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Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I wo= uld like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a comm= itter. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filin= g a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API an= d now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I be= lieve that he will make a great committer to the project.

The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the commi= tters on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html= the following people are committers:

Derek Barnes
Jeffrey Kobal
Brent Metz [Approve]
Clarence Nethery
Jayant Thomas

Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disappr= oval of the nomination.

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Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:36:43 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0BLclX5065370 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:38:47 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0BLahRX029466 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:36:43 -0700 Received: from d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.145]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0BLagHx029446 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:36:42 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Clarence Nethery Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:36:37 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM119/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF654 | July 22, 2005) at 01/11/2006 14:39:18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/related; Boundary="0__=0ABBFA60DFE5289F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE5289F" Subject: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:50:18 -0000 --0__=0ABBFA60DFE5289F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE5289F Content-type: multipart/alternative; Boundary="1__=0ABBFA60DFE5289F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE5289F" --1__=0ABBFA60DFE5289F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE5289F Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I approve Michael as a Committer..... ----- Forwarded by Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM on 01/11/2006 04:36 = PM ----- = Brent D Metz/Boca = Raton/IBM = = To 01/11/2006 03:14 UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg = PM = cc = Subj= ect Nominate Michael Greenawalt as = Committer = = = = = = = Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I wo= uld like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committe= r. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a lar= ge percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writ= ing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he = will make a great committer to the project. The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers: Derek Barnes Jeffrey Kobal Brent Metz [Approve] Clarence Nethery Jayant Thomas Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disappr= oval of the nomination. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible.= " - Alan Kay= --1__=0ABBFA60DFE5289F8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFA60DFE5289F Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

I approve Michael as a Committer.....
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Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer
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Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I wo= uld like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a comm= itter. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filin= g a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API an= d now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I be= lieve that he will make a great committer to the project.

The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the commi= tters on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html= the following people are committers:

Derek Barnes
Jeffrey Kobal
Brent Metz [Approve]
Clarence Nethery
Jayant Thomas

Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disappr= oval of the nomination.

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Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:38:48 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CFcmWX029467 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:38:48 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF85 November 04, 2005 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:41:31 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/12/2006 08:41:33, Serialize complete at 01/12/2006 08:41:33 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0055F121852570F4_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Milestone Plan updated X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:38:49 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0055F121852570F4_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have updated the milestone plan on the VTP web site: http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html We will be discussing the plan on today's call. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0055F121852570F4_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I have updated the milestone plan on the VTP web site:

http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html

We will be discussing the plan on today's call.

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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0055F121852570F4_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Jan 12 14:48:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA46611F31 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:48:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CJmjCl013895 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:48:45 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0CJlGpC260674 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:47:16 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0CJmeG9004415 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:48:40 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CJme3d004407 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:48:40 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: Fw: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF85 November 04, 2005 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:51:24 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/12/2006 12:51:25, Serialize complete at 01/12/2006 12:51:25 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_related 006CD1C9852570F4_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:48:49 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_related 006CD1C9852570F4_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006CD1C9852570F4_=" --=_alternative 006CD1C9852570F4_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Jayant is having problems posting to the mailing list, so I'm forwarding this on his behalf: -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay ----- Forwarded by Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM on 01/12/2006 02:48 PM ----- "THOMAS, JAYANT \(SBCSI\)" 01/12/2006 02:41 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject FW: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer -----Original Message----- From: THOMAS, JAYANT (SBCSI) Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:32 AM To: 'Voice Tools general developers' Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer I approve Michael as a Committer. thanks Jayant at&t - Speech & Call Center Architecture -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Clarence Nethery Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:37 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer I approve Michael as a Committer..... ----- Forwarded by Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM on 01/11/2006 04:36 PM ----- Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM 01/11/2006 03:14 PM To UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg cc Subject Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I would like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committer. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he will make a great committer to the project. The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers: Derek Barnes Jeffrey Kobal Brent Metz [Approve] Clarence Nethery Jayant Thomas Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disapproval of the nomination. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 006CD1C9852570F4_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Jayant is having problems posting to the mailing list, so I'm forwarding this on his behalf:

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-----Original Message-----
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THOMAS, JAYANT (SBCSI)
Sent:
Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:32 AM
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'Voice Tools general developers'
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RE: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer

I approve Michael as a Committer.
thanks
Jayant
at&t - Speech & Call Center Architecture
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mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Clarence Nethery
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Subject:
[vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer

I approve Michael as a Committer.....

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Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM

01/11/2006 03:14 PM



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Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer




Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I would like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committer. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he will make a great committer to the project.

The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to
http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers:

Derek Barnes
Jeffrey Kobal
Brent Metz [Approve]
Clarence Nethery
Jayant Thomas

Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disapproval of the nomination.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
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Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:09:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C617CD.33B6410F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brent suggested that we carry out this discussion on vtp-dev. So here are some thoughts on Voice Tools documentation.=20 =20 I will be happy to see Brent's reorganization of the top level. That should be better for contributing new stuff into. =20 -- Mike =20 ________________________________ From: Brent D Metz [mailto:kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:24 AM To: Michael Greenawalt Cc: Randy Ray Subject: Re: Documentation =20 Thanks for putting this together. My thinking is to reorganize at the highest level into Getting Started, Concepts, Tasks, and References. This seems to be the top level design of existing help inside the Eclipse help contents.=20 I like your approach. The biggest thing to cover is the simplest stuff - how to get skype, how to get a tellme studio account, and so on.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay=20 "Michael Greenawalt" =20 01/11/2006 08:37 PM=20 To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS=20 cc "Randy Ray" =20 Subject Documentation =20 =20 =20 Brent -=20 =20 I am thinking about the documentation for VoiceXML Browsers that should be created for Eclipse Help. Let's discuss structure of the docs:=20 =20 Right now there is:=20 =20 Voice Tools=20 CCXML information=20 SRGS-XML information=20 VoiceXML information=20 Voice Tools DTD Catalog=20 =20 I propose we have the following: (new stuff in red)=20 =20 Voice Tools=20 CCXML information (org.eclipse.vtp.editor.ccxml.doc)=20 SRGS-XML information (org.eclipse.vtp.editor.srgxml.doc)=20 VoiceXML information (org.eclipse.vtp.editor.vxml.doc)=20 Voice Tools DTD Catalog (org.eclipse.vtp.doc)=20 VoiceXML Browsers (org.eclipse.vtp.launching.doc)=20 Concepts=20 Application URL/Serving the app=20 VoiceXML Browser Input view=20 Tellme VoiceXML Browser (org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.doc)=20 Concepts=20 Tellme Studio=20 =20 (introduction to Studio facilities)=20 (description of notions of scratchpad and debug log)=20 (Studio as a source of information)=20 VoIP Dialer=20 (Discussion of use of VoIP phone API to manage Studio)=20 (Discussion of notion of multiple dialers possible)=20 Tasks=20 Getting Started (Skype install)=20 (Where to get Skype)=20 (installing Skype)=20 (registering with Skype)=20 Registering with Studio=20 (getting id and password from Studio)=20 Oopses=20 (dealing with the "fast busy")=20 (limitations of log streaming)=20 (hopefully this section is not needed long term)=20 BrandX VoiceXML Browser=20 Concepts=20 Tasks=20 ...=20 =20 =20 If we go this way, two layers need to be defined: The VoiceXML Browser layer that is generic, and then the Tellme VoiceXML Browser layer. Certainly Tellme gets to do the second. Who wants to do the first? I can get it started in a pinch.=20 =20 What do you think?=20 =20 -- Mike=20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C617CD.33B6410F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Brent suggested that we carry out = this discussion on vtp-dev. So here are some thoughts on Voice Tools = documentation.

 

I will be happy to see = Brent’s reorganization of the top level. That should be better for contributing = new stuff into.

 

-- = Mike

 


From: Brent = D Metz [mailto:kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ]
Sent: Thursday, January = 12, 2006 7:24 AM
To: Michael = Greenawalt
Cc: Randy Ray
Subject: Re: = Documentation

 


Thanks for putting this together. My thinking is = to reorganize at the highest level into Getting Started, Concepts, Tasks, = and References. This seems to be the top level design of existing help = inside the Eclipse help contents.

I like your approach. The biggest thing to cover is the simplest stuff - = how to get skype, how to get a tellme studio account, and so on. =

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay


"Michael = Greenawalt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot> =

01/11/2006 08:37 PM

To

Brent D Metz/Boca = Raton/IBM@IBMUS

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"Randy Ray" <pA4miS8U6FQmz1r7@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>

Subject

Documentation

 

 

 




Brent –
 
I am thinking about the documentation for VoiceXML Browsers that should be = created for Eclipse Help. Let’s discuss structure of the = docs:
 
Right now there is:
 
Voice Tools
            CCXML information
            SRGS-XML information =
            VoiceXML information =
            Voice Tools DTD Catalog =
 
I propose we have the following: (new stuff in red)
 
Voice Tools
            CCXML information     =                       =                   = (org.eclipse.vtp.editor.ccxml.doc)
            SRGS-XML information     =                       =             = (org.eclipse.vtp.editor.srgxml.doc)
            VoiceXML information     =                       =               = (org.eclipse.vtp.editor.vxml.doc)
            Voice Tools DTD Catalog     =                       =          (org.eclipse.vtp.doc)
            VoiceXML Browsers                   =                       =   (org.eclipse.vtp.launching.doc)
                =         Concepts
                =                     = Application URL/Serving the app
                =                     VoiceXML = Browser Input view
                =         Tellme VoiceXML Browser         =             =  (org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.doc)
                =                     = Concepts
                =                       =           Tellme Studio
                =                       =                       (introduction to Studio facilities)
                =                       =                       (description of notions of scratchpad and debug log)
                =                       =                       = (Studio as a source of information)
                =                       =           VoIP Dialer
                =                       =                       (Discussion of use of VoIP phone API to manage Studio) =
                =                       =                       (Discussion of notion of multiple dialers possible)
                =                     = Tasks
                =                       =           Getting Started  (Skype = install)
                =                       =                       = (Where to get Skype)
                =                       =                       (installing Skype)
                =                       =                       (registering with Skype)
                =                       =           Registering with Studio
                =                       =                       = (getting id and password from Studio)
                =                       =           Oopses
                =                       =                       = (dealing with the “fast busy”)
                =                       =                       (limitations of log streaming)
                =                       =                       (hopefully this section is not needed long term)
                =         BrandX VoiceXML Browser
                =                     = Concepts
                =                     = Tasks
                =         …
 
 
If we go this way, two layers need to be defined:  The VoiceXML Browser = layer that is generic, and then the Tellme VoiceXML Browser layer. Certainly = Tellme gets to do the second. Who wants to do the first? I can get it started = in a pinch.
 
What do you think?
 
-- Mike
 
 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C617CD.33B6410F-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Fri Jan 13 17:18:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40445F804 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167D1917 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87968EC for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:17:49 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6188F.3071150C" Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:17:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Snapshot of Help tree Thread-Index: AcYYjy//0YEnOoGCQDadaEejh8iEIg== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: Subject: [vtp-dev] Snapshot of Help tree X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:18:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6188F.3071150C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C6188F.3071150C" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C6188F.3071150C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attached is a snapshot of the VoiceXML Browsers documentation that I have put together so far.=20 =20 I am just showing the topic structure in the left-hand pane. There is no real text yet. =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_002_01C6188F.3071150C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Attached is a snapshot of the VoiceXML Browsers documentation that I have put together so far. =

 

I am just showing the topic structure in the = left-hand pane. There is no real text yet.

 

-- Mike

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X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:37:32 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00781220852570F3_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday,January 12, 2006 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Milestone plan update 3) TellMe contribution functional overview 4) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00781220852570F3_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday,January 12, 2006
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Milestone plan update
3) TellMe contribution functional overview
4) Development discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00781220852570F3_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Sun Jan 15 14:07:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 703C218C367 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0FJ7CVQ003004 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:07:12 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0FJ5dqi247728 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:05:39 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0FJ7CgA026530 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:07:12 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0FJ7CsI026527 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:07:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:09:56 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/15/2006 12:09:58, Serialize complete at 01/15/2006 12:09:58 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_related 006905D8852570F7_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Re: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:07:13 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_related 006905D8852570F7_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006905D8852570F7_=" --=_alternative 006905D8852570F7_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The final vote is 5-0 in favor of recommending Michael be promoted to Committer to the Technology PMC: Derek Barnes [Approve] Jeffrey Kobal [Approve] Brent Metz [Approve] Clarence Nethery [Approve] Jayant Thomas [Approve] -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 01/12/2006 02:51 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg cc Subject Fw: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer Jayant is having problems posting to the mailing list, so I'm forwarding this on his behalf: -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay ----- Forwarded by Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM on 01/12/2006 02:48 PM ----- "THOMAS, JAYANT \(SBCSI\)" 01/12/2006 02:41 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject FW: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer -----Original Message----- From: THOMAS, JAYANT (SBCSI) Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:32 AM To: 'Voice Tools general developers' Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer I approve Michael as a Committer. thanks Jayant at&t - Speech & Call Center Architecture -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Clarence Nethery Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:37 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Fw: Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer I approve Michael as a Committer..... ----- Forwarded by Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM on 01/11/2006 04:36 PM ----- Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM 01/11/2006 03:14 PM To UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg cc Subject Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I would like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committer. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he will make a great committer to the project. The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers: Derek Barnes Jeffrey Kobal Brent Metz [Approve] Clarence Nethery Jayant Thomas Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disapproval of the nomination. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 006905D8852570F7_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
The final vote is 5-0 in favor of recommending Michael be promoted to Committer to the Technology PMC:

Derek Barnes [Approve]
Jeffrey Kobal [Approve]
Brent Metz [Approve]
Clarence Nethery [Approve]
Jayant Thomas [Approve]


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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



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Jayant is having problems posting to the mailing list, so I'm forwarding this on his behalf:


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I approve Michael as a Committer.

thanks

Jayant

at&t - Speech & Call Center Architecture

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I approve Michael as a Committer.....

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Nominate Michael Greenawalt as Committer






Following the excellent contribution made to the project this week I would like to nominate Michael Greenawalt at TellMe Networks to be a committer. Michael has made significant contributions to the project, filing a large percentage of the bugs, suggesting improvements to the API and now writing much of the first implementation of the Browser API. I believe that he will make a great committer to the project.

The Eclipse Development Process stated that we need a vote of the committers on the project. According to
http://www.eclipse.org/technology/commit.html the following people are committers:

Derek Barnes
Jeffrey Kobal
Brent Metz [Approve]
Clarence Nethery
Jayant Thomas

Please send a note to UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg with your approval or disapproval of the nomination.

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[32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0DF711D43 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0FNYkZm015949 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:34:46 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0FNXDqi252798 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:33:13 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0FNYkW3023117 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:34:46 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0FNYksr023109 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:34:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Snapshot of Help tree MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:37:31 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/15/2006 16:37:33, Serialize complete at 01/15/2006 16:37:33 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0081844C852570F7_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:34:48 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0081844C852570F7_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I've restructured the existing VTP documentation to be more in sync with other Eclipse projects such as the JDT. The new layout of the help topics is below. Documentation is an area that can always benefit from scrutiny so please take a moment to grab a daily build and see where improvements can be made. Is coverage bad of the tricks of VoiceXML authoring? Is it unclear what SRGS is? Do you know of a good resource that should be under the References section? This is a great area to make your mark on the project! Suggestions and fixes can be reported either by opening a bugzilla defect under the 'doc' subcomponent or by directly emailing the mailing list. Voice Development User Guide Getting Started [Nothing yet] Concepts VoiceXML What is VoiceXML? Color coding in VoiceXML editor VoiceXML coding tips Content assist in VoiceXML editor Grammar Files What is a grammar file? What is SRGS? Content assist in the SRGS XML editor CCXML What is CCXML? Color coding in CCXML editor Content assist in CCXML editor Tasks Creating a VoiceXML Program Creating a VoiceXML file Validating a VoiceXML file Adding VoiceXML elements and attributes Adding a grammar Adding DTMF input Adding an ECMAScript Object file Troubleshooting a VoiceXML file Creating Grammars Creating a grammar file Converting a word list to SRGS Creating CCXML Programs Creating a CCXML file Validating a CCXML file Setting Catalog Defaults What is a DTD Catalog? Adding a new Version Adding a new DTD Setting a Default DTD Restoring Defaults References [Nothing yet] -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 01/13/2006 05:17 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To cc Subject [vtp-dev] Snapshot of Help tree Attached is a snapshot of the VoiceXML Browsers documentation that I have put together so far. I am just showing the topic structure in the left-hand pane. There is no real text yet. -- Mike[attachment "helpinput.gif" deleted by Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM] _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 0081844C852570F7_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I've restructured the existing VTP documentation to be more in sync with other Eclipse projects such as the JDT. The new layout of the help topics is below. Documentation is an area that can always benefit from scrutiny so please take a moment to grab a daily build and see where improvements can be made. Is coverage bad of the tricks of VoiceXML authoring? Is it unclear what SRGS is? Do you know of a good resource that should be under the References section? This is a great area to make your mark on the project! Suggestions and fixes can be reported either by opening a bugzilla defect under the 'doc' subcomponent or by directly emailing the mailing list.

Voice Development User Guide
                Getting Started
                               [Nothing yet]
        Concepts
                VoiceXML
                        What is VoiceXML?
                        Color coding in VoiceXML editor
                        VoiceXML coding tips
                        Content assist in VoiceXML editor
                Grammar Files
                        What is a grammar file?
                        What is SRGS?
                        Content assist in the SRGS XML editor
                CCXML
                        What is CCXML?
                        Color coding in CCXML editor
                        Content assist in CCXML editor
        Tasks
                Creating a VoiceXML Program
                        Creating a VoiceXML file
                        Validating a VoiceXML file
                        Adding VoiceXML elements and attributes
                        Adding a grammar
                        Adding DTMF input
                        Adding an ECMAScript Object file
                        Troubleshooting a VoiceXML file
                Creating Grammars
                        Creating a grammar file
                        Converting a word list to SRGS
                Creating CCXML Programs
                        Creating a CCXML file
                        Validating a CCXML file
                Setting Catalog Defaults
                        What is a DTD Catalog?
                        Adding a new Version
                        Adding a new DTD
                        Setting a Default DTD
                        Restoring Defaults
        References
                [Nothing yet]


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Attached is a snapshot of the VoiceXML Browsers documentation that I have put together so far.
 
I am just showing the topic structure in the left-hand pane. There is no real text yet.
 
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Hi,

As updated WTP 1.0-based XML editors come online in CVS I have changed the build process to use WTP 1.0. The daily builds as of tonight are using it successfully. There will be a few more days of transition work but now would be an excellent time to grab WTP 1.0 and move to it if you haven't already:

http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R-1.0-200512210855/

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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 001F3A0F852570FA_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Jan 18 15:36:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE588195067 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0IKa1fZ019196 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:01 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0IKYOOO242022 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:34:24 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0IKa16c029845 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:36:01 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0IKa1Y1029828 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:36:01 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF85 November 04, 2005 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:38:47 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/18/2006 13:38:48, Serialize complete at 01/18/2006 13:38:48 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007127EF852570FA_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 19 January Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:36:04 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007127EF852570FA_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday,January 19, 2006 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) Milestone plan update 3) XML Editor currency update overview 4) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007127EF852570FA_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday,January 19, 2006
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) Milestone plan update
3) XML Editor currency update overview
4) Development discussion


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007127EF852570FA_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Jan 19 11:55:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA07BC3FC for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0JGt5Ko006071 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:55:05 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0JGrRJI254666 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:53:27 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0JGt5dF013601 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:55:05 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0JGt5SB013598 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:55:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF85 November 04, 2005 To: From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:57:51 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/19/2006 09:57:51, Serialize complete at 01/19/2006 09:57:51 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005BFF4F852570FB_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: January 19, 2005 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:55:07 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005BFF4F852570FB_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes January 19, 2006, 11am EST Attendees: Brent Metz, IBM Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Mike Greenawalt, TellMe Networks The call began with a discussion of the TellMe Browser Dialer API. It was noted that it is not currently marked internal and its merits as a public API of the project were explored. It was said to have good documentation and to be suitably generic to not be bound to just the TellMe Browser. The procedure for becoming Eclipse Quality APi was outlined. It was decided that there is not enough time in the current timeline to pursue making the API public and that it should be renamed to indicate it is internal. TellMe's browser implementation was discussed. Only one bugzilla defect was said to be present. Possible error scenarios were noted. Improvements to TellMe Studio that might affect the plugin infrastructure were talked about as well as what could cause testing implications, including multiple users on the system attempting to run their own applications. The state of the XML editor update was communicated. It was said that the VoiceXML editor is ready to be checked in and the SRGS editor is nearly ready as well. The catalog's update to reflect a tighter integration with WTP 1.0 was discussed. Callers were encouraged to test their DTD's with the new editors. Additional platforms for the Skype communication layer were discussed. Linux compatibility was not estimated to be ready for M2. It was said that work continues towards an implementation. Mac OS X compatibility was discussed but no developer for a port was established. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 005BFF4F852570FB_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

January 19, 2006, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent Metz, IBM
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Mike Greenawalt, TellMe Networks

The call began with a discussion of the TellMe Browser Dialer API. It was noted that it is not currently marked internal
and its merits as a public API of the project were explored. It was said to have good documentation and to be suitably
generic to not be bound to just the TellMe Browser. The procedure for becoming Eclipse Quality APi was outlined. It was
decided that there is not enough time in the current timeline to pursue making the API public and that it should be
renamed to indicate it is internal.

TellMe's browser implementation was discussed. Only one bugzilla defect was said to be present. Possible error scenarios
were noted. Improvements to TellMe Studio that might affect the plugin infrastructure were talked about as well as what
could cause testing implications, including multiple users on the system attempting to run their own applications.

The state of the XML editor update was communicated. It was said that the VoiceXML editor is ready to be checked in and the
SRGS editor is nearly ready as well. The catalog's update to reflect a tighter integration with WTP 1.0 was discussed.
Callers were encouraged to test their DTD's with the new editors.

Additional platforms for the Skype communication layer were discussed. Linux compatibility was not estimated to be ready for
M2. It was said that work continues towards an implementation. Mac OS X compatibility was discussed but no developer for a
port was established.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 005BFF4F852570FB_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Jan 25 16:42:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ECFB12EE4 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0PLgGjV030728 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:42:16 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0PLiVfL160628 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:44:31 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0PLgFdp007523 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:42:15 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0PLgFBT007520 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:42:15 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:45:04 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/25/2006 14:45:04, Serialize complete at 01/25/2006 14:45:04 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007736EA85257101_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] REMINDER: 26 January Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:42:24 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007736EA85257101_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on: Thursday,January 26, 2006 11:00am ET (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers: 866-650-8398 (toll free within US) 210-516-7928 (toll call within US) Passcode: 4075904 Proposed Agenda: 1) Roll call 2) M2 defect discussion 3) Development discussion -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007736EA85257101_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hello,

This is a reminder that the next Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call will take place on:


Thursday,January 26, 2006
11:00am ET  (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

Duration: 1 hour

Dial-in numbers:  

  866-650-8398  (toll free within US)

  210-516-7928 (toll call within US)

Passcode: 4075904


Proposed Agenda:


1) Roll call

2) M2 defect discussion
3) Development discussion

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007736EA85257101_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Jan 26 13:44:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C892B13195 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0QIi01M005932 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:44:00 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0QIgCeQ259846 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:42:12 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0QIi0qm024784 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:44:00 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0QIi0Yw024777 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:44:00 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:46:48 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/26/2006 11:46:49, Serialize complete at 01/26/2006 11:46:49 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0066E50685257102_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP Development Call Minutes: January 26, 2006 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:44:20 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0066E50685257102_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes January 26, 2006, 11am EST Attendees: Brent D. Metz, IBM Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry Michael Greenawalt, Tellme Networks The call focused on the resolution of bugs in bugzilla ahead of a second milestone. Bugs 111857, 123170, 124891, 124896, 124900 and 124906 were each discussed and a plan for resolving them was established. Only bug 111857 was cited as not resolvable by the second milestone. In addition, code to support Tellme Studio logon changes, new templates to assist in VoiceXML creation, externalization of strings and documentation were mentioned as needing to be resolved. The call ended with the statement that the second milestone would resemble the release very closely. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0066E50685257102_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Eclipse Voice Tools Development Call Minutes

January 26, 2006, 11am EST

Attendees:

Brent D. Metz, IBM
Jeff Pedigo, SandCherry
Michael Greenawalt, Tellme Networks

The call focused on the resolution of bugs in bugzilla ahead of a second milestone. Bugs 111857, 123170, 124891,
124896, 124900 and 124906 were each discussed and a plan for resolving them was established. Only bug 111857 was
cited as not resolvable by the second milestone. In addition, code to support Tellme Studio logon changes,
new templates to assist in VoiceXML creation, externalization of strings and documentation were mentioned as
needing to be resolved. The call ended with the statement that the second milestone would resemble the release
very closely.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0066E50685257102_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Jan 30 22:27:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 624A113194 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0V3RtPB020627 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:27:55 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0V3Q12L201440 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:26:01 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0V3Rt0n021063 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:27:55 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0V3Rtbv021059 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:27:55 -0700 To: NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:30:44 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/30/2006 20:30:46, Serialize complete at 01/30/2006 20:30:46 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0013079085257107_=" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Events from Tellme browser log X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 03:27:58 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0013079085257107_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, I checked in a few changes to GetLogItems that cause the browser to throw one of the predefined events. While working on it to add other events, I noticed two things that I couldn't figure out: - Is there a way to tell the difference between loading/unloading a form and a field in the log? Both lines look identical to me. - Is there a reliable way to tell the difference between a speech result and a DTMF result returned to the browser? It's a reasonable assumption that all-digit utterences with 100% confidence are DTMF but I was curious if there is some other method. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0013079085257107_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

I checked in a few changes to GetLogItems that cause the browser to throw one of the predefined events. While working on it to add other events, I noticed two things that I couldn't figure out:

- Is there a way to tell the difference between loading/unloading a form and a field in the log? Both lines look identical to me.
- Is there a reliable way to tell the difference between a speech result and a DTMF result returned to the browser? It's a reasonable assumption that all-digit utterences with 100% confidence are DTMF but I was curious if there is some other method.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0013079085257107_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jan 31 10:57:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33980155E9 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0VFv6oV023475 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:57:06 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0VFxJsw039744 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:59:20 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0VFuwBt031756 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:56:58 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0VFuwiJ031753 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:56:58 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:59:47 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/31/2006 08:59:49, Serialize complete at 01/31/2006 08:59:49 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00579A7685257107_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:57:15 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00579A7685257107_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have submitted an application for a short talk at EclipseCon: http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=435 If anyone is going to EclipseCon and is interested in helping with the presentation please create an account on the Eclipsezilla system and let me know so that I can add you. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00579A7685257107_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I have submitted an application for a short talk at EclipseCon:

http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=435

If anyone is going to EclipseCon and is interested in helping with the presentation please create an account on the Eclipsezilla system and let me know so that I can add you.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00579A7685257107_=-- From MzctCNT6Iy1pWw8d@h5i3W7BndxAOB/0x Tue Jan 31 12:06:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from m7s21.vlinux.de (m7s21.vlinux.de [83.151.27.215]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 810A11B9B89 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [84.131.216.205] (helo=volki) by m7s21.vlinux.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1F3ywr-0007tM-00 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:05:45 +0100 From: Robert Schulz To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Events from Tellme browser log Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:05:59 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:06:21 -0000 Hi! >It's a reasonable assumption > that all-digit utterences with 100% confidence are DTMF but I was curious > if there is some other method. Just a workaround: set a tag in your dtmf-grammar!? greetinx rob Am Dienstag, 31. Januar 2006 04:30 schrieb Brent D Metz: > Hi, > > I checked in a few changes to GetLogItems that cause the browser to throw > one of the predefined events. While working on it to add other events, I > noticed two things that I couldn't figure out: > > - Is there a way to tell the difference between loading/unloading a form > and a field in the log? Both lines look identical to me. > - Is there a reliable way to tell the difference between a speech result > and a DTMF result returned to the browser? It's a reasonable assumption > that all-digit utterences with 100% confidence are DTMF but I was curious > if there is some other method. > > -- > Brent D. Metz > Enterprise Voice Tools > kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ > "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - > Alan Kay -- mit freundlichen Gruessen * * Dipl.-Physiker * Robert Schulz * * Eimbeckhaeuser Str.33 * 30459 Hannover * * Tel. : 0511/3748730 * Mobil : 0173/5108769 * e-mail: RFDBSBgXvp7eLKuc@t0lXh6mQoC1swCkC * From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jan 31 13:14:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E313144AC for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0VIE2E1016088 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:14:02 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0VIC71F247534 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:12:07 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0VIE1r6028528 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:14:02 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0VIE1PB028489 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:14:01 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:16:51 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/31/2006 11:16:52, Serialize complete at 01/31/2006 11:16:52 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0064273A85257107_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] M2 candidate X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:14:03 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0064273A85257107_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" As we prepare to a milestone I have made a build available as a candidate: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/vtp/vtp-M2-candidate.zip As we test this build I would encourage others to download it and help identify any serious problems to the list. If any changes are required vtp-dev will be notified so that you may download the latest copy. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0064273A85257107_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
As we prepare to a milestone I have made a build available as a candidate:

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/vtp/vtp-M2-candidate.zip

As we test this build I would encourage others to download it and help identify any serious problems to the list. If any changes are required vtp-dev will be notified so that you may download the latest copy.

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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0064273A85257107_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jan 31 16:39:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29861108A9 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0VLdfJU001704 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:39:41 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k0VLbk1F256234 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:37:46 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0VLdfO0030379 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:39:41 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0VLdfsd030120 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:39:41 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:42:25 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/31/2006 14:42:32, Serialize complete at 01/31/2006 14:42:32 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0076F8D785257107_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Bug 125927 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:39:51 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0076F8D785257107_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" While testing the build today I noticed a pattern emerging of the browser's odd runs not connecting on one machine: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=125927 Has anyone else seen this behavior? If so, please add a comment to the bug. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0076F8D785257107_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
While testing the build today I noticed a pattern emerging of the browser's odd runs not connecting on one machine:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=125927

Has anyone else seen this behavior? If so, please add a comment to the bug.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0076F8D785257107_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jan 31 19:27:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ACE115FB1 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k110RrhD025527 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:27:53 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k110Pw1F127206 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:25:58 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k110RrdF014111 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:27:53 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k110RrGu014108 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:27:53 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Bug 125927 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:30:42 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/31/2006 17:30:44, Serialize complete at 01/31/2006 17:30:44 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00028AD585257108_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:27:54 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00028AD585257108_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Michael has identified a fix for this defect. Due to its severity I have spun a new build to incorporate the fix, which may be obtained here: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/vtp/vtp-M2-candidate2.zip As the fix only affects the browser please focus testing there. If no serious problems are identified this will be marked as the milestone later tonight. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 01/31/2006 04:42 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg cc Subject [vtp-dev] Bug 125927 While testing the build today I noticed a pattern emerging of the browser's odd runs not connecting on one machine: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=125927 Has anyone else seen this behavior? If so, please add a comment to the bug. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 00028AD585257108_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Michael has identified a fix for this defect. Due to its severity I have spun a new build to incorporate the fix, which may be obtained here:

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/vtp/vtp-M2-candidate2.zip

As the fix only affects the browser please focus testing there. If no serious problems are identified this will be marked as the milestone later tonight.

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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



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01/31/2006 04:42 PM
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While testing the build today I noticed a pattern emerging of the browser's odd runs not connecting on one machine:


https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=125927


Has anyone else seen this behavior? If so, please add a comment to the bug.


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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
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--=_alternative 00028AD585257108_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Jan 31 23:20:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93B2115FF2 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k114KkPA000715 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:20:46 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k114Ip1F226180 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:18:51 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k114Kka9005978 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:20:46 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k114Kkj6005975 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:20:46 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:23:35 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 01/31/2006 21:23:37, Serialize complete at 01/31/2006 21:23:37 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0017DD0885257108_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP M2 is available X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:20:48 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0017DD0885257108_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All, VTP milestone build "M2" is now available from the VTP web site. In addition to updating the project to be based upon Eclipse WTP 1.0 this milestone notably incorporates the integration of the Tellme browser taking advantage of the project's Browser API. This is a major functional milestone for the project, which now offers both an editing and an execution environment for voice application development. As we continue to refine documentation and code quality in the coming weeks I hope you will use this milestone and provide feedback to the team. With the availability of a working implementation of the Browser API this is also an excellent point to look at the advantages of building commercial tooling on top of the VTP. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0017DD0885257108_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi All,

VTP milestone build "M2" is now available from the VTP web site. In addition to updating the project to be based upon Eclipse WTP 1.0 this milestone notably incorporates the integration of the Tellme browser taking advantage of the project's Browser API.

This is a major functional milestone for the project, which now offers both an editing and an execution environment for voice application development. As we continue to refine documentation and code quality in the coming weeks I hope you will use this milestone and provide feedback to the team. With the availability of a working implementation of the Browser API this is also an excellent point to look at the advantages of building commercial tooling on top of the VTP.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0017DD0885257108_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Feb 1 10:04:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C5CF11F43 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k11F3N0v001390 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:03:23 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k11F5iR9178858 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:05:44 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k11F3Neg010948 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:03:23 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k11F3NKZ010935 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:03:23 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Clarence Nethery MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:06:13 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 02/01/2006 08:06:13, Serialize complete at 02/01/2006 08:06:13 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_related 00529EB885257108_=" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Re: VTP Build Problems X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:04:04 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_related 00529EB885257108_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00529EB985257108_=" --=_alternative 00529EB985257108_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" It's created automatically during the build. What build problems are you noticing? -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM 02/01/2006 09:24 AM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM cc Subject VTP Build Problems Brent, The build problems I noticed is in the org.eclipse.vtp.source plugin which I haven't looked at. Do you know what this is and is it something I need to look at? Thanks, --=_alternative 00529EB985257108_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
It's created automatically during the build. What build problems are you noticing?

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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM

02/01/2006 09:24 AM

To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM
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Subject
VTP Build Problems




Brent,

The build problems I noticed is in the org.eclipse.vtp.source plugin which I haven't looked at. Do you know what this is and is it something I need to look at?

Thanks,

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boundary="=_related 00553C8285257108_=" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Re: VTP Build Problems X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:33:01 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_related 00553C8285257108_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00553C8485257108_=" --=_alternative 00553C8485257108_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The project in CVS is a holdover from a previous build process; I should remove it. The one you see in the builds is created automatically and doesn't use any files in there. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM 02/01/2006 10:24 AM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM cc Subject Re: VTP Build Problems Brent, Just "Check it out" and you'll see errors during build. The log file has: !SESSION 2006-02-01 10:21:32.173 ----------------------------------------------- eclipse.buildId=M20050929-0840 java.fullversion=J2RE 1.4.2 IBM Windows 32 build cn1420-20040626 (JIT enabled: jitc) BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US Command-line arguments: -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86 !ENTRY org.eclipse.core.resources 4 2 2006-02-01 10:22:29.485 !MESSAGE Problems occurred when invoking code from plug-in: "org.eclipse.core.resources". !STACK 1 org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: The builder launch configuration could not be found. at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolsPlugin.newError(ExternalToolsPlugin.java:73) at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolBuilder.build(ExternalToolBuilder.java:71) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$2.run(BuildManager.java:593) at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044) at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:168) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:202) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$1.run(BuildManager.java:231) at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044) at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:234) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuildLoop(BuildManager.java:253) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.build(BuildManager.java:282) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.doBuild(AutoBuildJob.java:139) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.run(AutoBuildJob.java:200) at org.eclipse.core.internal.jobs.Worker.run(Worker.java:76) !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.485 !MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found. !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.485 !MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found. !ENTRY org.eclipse.core.resources 4 2 2006-02-01 10:22:29.836 !MESSAGE Problems occurred when invoking code from plug-in: "org.eclipse.core.resources". !STACK 1 org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: The builder launch configuration could not be found. at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolsPlugin.newError(ExternalToolsPlugin.java:73) at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolBuilder.build(ExternalToolBuilder.java:71) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$2.run(BuildManager.java:593) at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044) at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:168) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:202) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$1.run(BuildManager.java:231) at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044) at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:234) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuildLoop(BuildManager.java:253) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.build(BuildManager.java:282) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.doBuild(AutoBuildJob.java:139) at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.run(AutoBuildJob.java:200) at org.eclipse.core.internal.jobs.Worker.run(Worker.java:76) !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.836 !MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found. !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.846 !MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found. !ENTRY org.eclipse.core.resources 4 75 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307 !MESSAGE Errors during build. !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 2 75 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307 !MESSAGE Errors running builder "Integrated External Tool Builder" on project org.eclipse.vtp.source. !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307 !MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found. !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 2 75 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307 !MESSAGE Errors running builder "Integrated External Tool Builder" on project org.eclipse.vtp.source. !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307 !MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found. Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM 02/01/2006 10:02 AM To Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM cc UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject Re: VTP Build Problems It's created automatically during the build. What build problems are you noticing? -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM 02/01/2006 09:24 AM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM cc Subject VTP Build Problems Brent, The build problems I noticed is in the org.eclipse.vtp.source plugin which I haven't looked at. Do you know what this is and is it something I need to look at? Thanks, --=_alternative 00553C8485257108_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
The project in CVS is a holdover from a previous build process; I should remove it. The one you see in the builds is created automatically and doesn't use any files in there.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM

02/01/2006 10:24 AM

To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM
cc
Subject
Re: VTP Build ProblemsLink




Brent,

Just "Check it out" and you'll see errors during build. The log file has:


!SESSION 2006-02-01 10:21:32.173 -----------------------------------------------
eclipse.buildId=M20050929-0840
java.fullversion=J2RE 1.4.2 IBM Windows 32 build cn1420-20040626 (JIT enabled: jitc)
BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US
Command-line arguments:  -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86

!ENTRY org.eclipse.core.resources 4 2 2006-02-01 10:22:29.485
!MESSAGE Problems occurred when invoking code from plug-in: "org.eclipse.core.resources".
!STACK 1
org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: The builder launch configuration could not be found.
        at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolsPlugin.newError(ExternalToolsPlugin.java:73)
        at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolBuilder.build(ExternalToolBuilder.java:71)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$2.run(BuildManager.java:593)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044)
        at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:168)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:202)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$1.run(BuildManager.java:231)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044)
        at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:234)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuildLoop(BuildManager.java:253)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.build(BuildManager.java:282)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.doBuild(AutoBuildJob.java:139)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.run(AutoBuildJob.java:200)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.jobs.Worker.run(Worker.java:76)
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.485
!MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found.
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.485
!MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found.

!ENTRY org.eclipse.core.resources 4 2 2006-02-01 10:22:29.836
!MESSAGE Problems occurred when invoking code from plug-in: "org.eclipse.core.resources".
!STACK 1
org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: The builder launch configuration could not be found.
        at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolsPlugin.newError(ExternalToolsPlugin.java:73)
        at org.eclipse.ui.externaltools.internal.model.ExternalToolBuilder.build(ExternalToolBuilder.java:71)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$2.run(BuildManager.java:593)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044)
        at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:168)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:202)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager$1.run(BuildManager.java:231)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.InternalPlatform.run(InternalPlatform.java:1044)
        at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.run(Platform.java:783)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuild(BuildManager.java:234)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.basicBuildLoop(BuildManager.java:253)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.BuildManager.build(BuildManager.java:282)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.doBuild(AutoBuildJob.java:139)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.events.AutoBuildJob.run(AutoBuildJob.java:200)
        at org.eclipse.core.internal.jobs.Worker.run(Worker.java:76)
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.836
!MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found.
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:29.846
!MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found.

!ENTRY org.eclipse.core.resources 4 75 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307
!MESSAGE Errors during build.
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 2 75 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307
!MESSAGE Errors running builder "Integrated External Tool Builder" on project org.eclipse.vtp.source.
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307
!MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found.
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 2 75 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307
!MESSAGE Errors running builder "Integrated External Tool Builder" on project org.eclipse.vtp.source.
!SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.ui.externaltools 4 0 2006-02-01 10:22:30.307
!MESSAGE The builder launch configuration could not be found.








Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM

02/01/2006 10:02 AM

To
Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM
cc
UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject
Re: VTP Build ProblemsLink




It's created automatically during the build. What build problems are you noticing?

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



Clarence Nethery/Boca Raton/IBM

02/01/2006 09:24 AM

To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM
cc
Subject
VTP Build Problems




Brent,

The build problems I noticed is in the org.eclipse.vtp.source plugin which I haven't looked at. Do you know what this is and is it something I need to look at?

Thanks,



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Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Events from Tellme browser log Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:15:15 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Events from Tellme browser log Thread-Index: AcYmiK5tXaMd7nKMTNaIgLHsvYpP5QA3nqpw From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:15:59 -0000 If there was code in GetLogItems to throw some different events, that code is not there now. I probably clobbered it when I checked in. I assume that throwing events is attempting to reflect real-time behavior. The log from Tellme Studio is way far from real-time. Sometimes I see the logs start to come well after the voice app is complete. So, what would you expect the response to be to one of those events?=20 I can see throwing the events to be useful if you are trying to collect a list of the recos, for instance.=20 I know that the Tellme engine absolutely knows what is DTMF and what is not. However, that does not show in the Studio logs. The Studio logs provide more information than the current VTP Browser. Some log items have HTML tables that are hidden until clicked on that give=20 greater detail. Since there is no way to do that in the Table structure=20 in the view, I strip that stuff out before sending. It would be nice if=20 the view of the log entries would allow for hyperlinks and color-coding of the log entries. -- Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On > Behalf Of Robert Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:06 AM > To: Voice Tools general developers > Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Events from Tellme browser log >=20 > Hi! >=20 > >It's a reasonable assumption > > that all-digit utterences with 100% confidence are DTMF but I was > curious > > if there is some other method. >=20 > Just a workaround: >=20 > set a tag in your dtmf-grammar!? >=20 > greetinx rob >=20 >=20 > Am Dienstag, 31. Januar 2006 04:30 schrieb Brent D Metz: > > Hi, > > > > I checked in a few changes to GetLogItems that cause the browser to > throw > > one of the predefined events. While working on it to add other events, I > > noticed two things that I couldn't figure out: > > > > - Is there a way to tell the difference between loading/unloading a form > > and a field in the log? Both lines look identical to me. > > - Is there a reliable way to tell the difference between a speech result > > and a DTMF result returned to the browser? It's a reasonable assumption > > that all-digit utterences with 100% confidence are DTMF but I was > curious > > if there is some other method. > > > > -- > > Brent D. Metz > > Enterprise Voice Tools > > kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ > > "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." > - > > Alan Kay >=20 > -- > mit freundlichen Gruessen >=20 > * > * Dipl.-Physiker > * Robert Schulz > * > * Eimbeckhaeuser Str.33 > * 30459 Hannover > * > * Tel. : 0511/3748730 > * Mobil : 0173/5108769 > * e-mail: RFDBSBgXvp7eLKuc@t0lXh6mQoC1swCkC > * > _______________________________________________ > vtp-dev mailing list > UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Feb 1 17:43:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A563615FFE for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k11Mh7FP025121 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:43:07 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k11MfB9M256108 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:41:11 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k11Mh7XS029522 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:43:07 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k11Mh6l3029501 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:43:07 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:45:55 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 02/01/2006 15:45:57, Serialize complete at 02/01/2006 15:45:57 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007CC95A85257108_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:43:19 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007CC95A85257108_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All, Participation in our weekly development call has waned over the past month to 3-4 participants. There are over 60 people signed up for vtp-dev and I don't want to leave so many people out of the loop on development discussions. I believe they have helped get the word out on what's going but that the point of diminishing returns has been reached. For that reason I'd like to shift these discussions to the mailing list so there is a better written record. Let me start up by reviewing the milestone plan, available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html. The current plan has us publishing a release candidate in two weeks with a release date of February 21, subject to the approval of the Eclipse Technology PMC. While yesterday's milestone release contains all of the function planned for the release, there are still many things left to do on the project, including unit tests, functional testing, bugzilla defect resolution, in-eclipse documentation, web tutorials, mandated website look and feel updates, and preparation of materials for the release review. These tasks all can benefit from help, even if the help is just complaints about what you'd like to see that's missing. One portion of the release review is a discussion of the developer base. While I have previously spoken to some of you directly about your company's product plans with respect to the VTP I would like to hear more from others who are using the VTP. Beyond download statistics this is a hard thing to quantify so I am eager to hear from those of you out there who are finding it useful. This information is helpful in showing to the PMC that the project has an ecosystem of parties developing, extending, and directly using it. Now that we have a milestone out it is a good time to verify bugs in the bugzilla database. If you have previously opened bugzilla bugs please install M2 and make sure the bugs are properly resolved. You may do this by going to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi and searching for bugs in the RESOLVED state with you as the bug reporter will yield a list of bugs that need to be verified. Michael's last day before he goes on a three week vacation is the third, so now would also be a good time to actively try and break the Tellme browser :). Michael, the only actionable bug I am seeing in bugzilla is 124906 (Remote chance user will see log from previous session). Do you believe this will be resolved before you leave? Also, any update on the status of documentation for the Tellme browser? -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 007CC95A85257108_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi All,

Participation in our weekly development call has waned over the past month to 3-4 participants. There are over 60 people signed up for vtp-dev and I don't want to leave so many people out of the loop on development discussions. I believe they have helped get the word out on what's going but that the point of diminishing returns has been reached. For that reason I'd like to shift these discussions to the mailing list so there is a better written record.

Let me start up by reviewing the milestone plan, available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html. The current plan has us publishing a release candidate in two weeks with a release date of February 21, subject to the approval of the Eclipse Technology PMC. While yesterday's milestone release contains all of the function planned for the release, there are still many things left to do on the project, including unit tests, functional testing, bugzilla defect resolution, in-eclipse documentation, web tutorials, mandated website look and feel updates, and preparation of materials for the release review. These tasks all can benefit from help, even if the help is just complaints about what you'd like to see that's missing.

One portion of the release review is a discussion of the developer base. While I have previously spoken to some of you directly about your company's product plans with respect to the VTP I would like to hear more from others who are using the VTP. Beyond download statistics this is a hard thing to quantify so I am eager to hear from those of you out there who are finding it useful. This information is helpful in showing to the PMC that the project has an ecosystem of parties developing, extending, and directly using it.

Now that we have a milestone out it is a good time to verify bugs in the bugzilla database. If you have previously opened bugzilla bugs please install M2 and make sure the bugs are properly resolved. You may do this by going to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi and searching for bugs in the RESOLVED state with you as the bug reporter will yield a list of bugs that need to be verified.

Michael's last day before he goes on a three week vacation is the third, so now would also be a good time to actively try and break the Tellme browser :). Michael, the only actionable bug I am seeing in bugzilla is 124906 (Remote chance user will see log from previous session). Do you believe this will be resolved before you leave? Also, any update on the status of documentation for the Tellme browser?

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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 007CC95A85257108_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Wed Feb 1 18:52:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 911881C0904 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:51:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C528E8 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D6C8E6 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:51:51 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6278A.791A34F3" Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:51:51 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Stopping behavior of launcher Thread-Index: AcYninjJJ+/elxKLQwaSKQLw7EV+Bw== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] Stopping behavior of launcher X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:52:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6278A.791A34F3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a problem in the current Tellme Browser that happens occasionally where pressing the Stop button in the Browser Input View will result in the call ending with TWO dialog boxes saying that the Stop button was pressed.=20 =20 There are a couple of threads running, one monitoring the phone call, and one monitoring the delivery of the event logs from the webserver. When Stop is pushed, both threads should check for that condition, and should coordinate their shutdown. The two dialogs happen when each thread is stopping and thinks it is the last thread to stop. =20 OK, that should not be too hard to fix, but how *should* it behave? Should pressing Stop mean: -- Stop the world, I want off. Kill the call and stop collecting logs immediately, or -- Stop the call, but continue to collect and report the logs that have been generated up to this point =20 As for me, I usually press Stop when I have seen enough, or things are completely messed up or whatever, and I don't care about remaining logs. But others may have differing opinions. =20 What's yours? =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6278A.791A34F3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There is a problem in the current Tellme Browser that happens occasionally where pressing the Stop button in the Browser Input = View will result in the call ending with TWO dialog boxes saying that the = Stop button was pressed.

 

There are a couple of threads running, one monitoring = the phone call, and one monitoring the delivery of the event logs from the webserver. When Stop is pushed, both threads should check for that = condition, and should coordinate their shutdown. The two dialogs happen when each = thread is stopping and thinks it is the last thread to = stop.

 

OK, that should not be too hard to fix, but how = *should* it behave? Should pressing = Stop mean:

--  Stop the world, I want off. Kill the call = and stop collecting logs immediately, or

--  Stop the call, but continue to collect and = report the logs that have been generated up to this = point

 

As for me, I usually press Stop when I have seen = enough, or things are completely messed up or whatever, and I don’t care = about remaining logs. But others may have differing = opinions.

 

What’s yours?

 

-- Mike

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6278A.791A34F3-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Wed Feb 1 19:48:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20552160B0 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B988EC for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C7E8E6 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:48:32 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62792.63D5D2B3" Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:48:31 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need library for Eclipse - Skype link on Linux Thread-Index: AcYnkmNxYlf8LQz/TsyaqPBSzVcy0Q== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] Need library for Eclipse - Skype link on Linux X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:48:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62792.63D5D2B3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C62792.63D5D2B3" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C62792.63D5D2B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Milestone 2 of the VTP includes the Tellme Browser, which launches voice applications on Tellme Studio via the Skype phone client. Today we have only a Windows implementation. =20 The only part of the plugin that is OS-dependent is the interface to the Skype client API from the Java environment. This is accomplished by creating a dynamic linkable library for the OS. In Windows, this is a .dll file. =20 The Java-Skype interface involves a Java class that provides methods to initialize, connect, send a message, and destroy the connection. The Java class in turn calls on native methods (using JNI) which are embodied in a platform-specific library. The platform-specific library is often written in C or C++, and the Java SDK provides the proper include files for C/C++ to define the JNI constructs. The Windows-specific library is written in C++. =20 Skype has clients for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. We would like to have versions of the Java-Skype interface for all the platforms. To make the Java-Skype interface work on those platforms requires only that a version of the platform-specific library be written for each platform.=20 =20 I have a volunteer developer working on the Mac OS X version right now. But there is no one currently signed up for the Linux version. =20 =20 Information about the Skype API implementation on Linux can be found here: =20 http://share.skype.com/developer_zone/documentation/api_reference/#Linux =20 A specification for the library interfaces is attached. =20 * Mike =20 PS: I will be out of the country for the next 3 weeks, but Brent has a good idea of what is involved, too, and may be able to answer questions. =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C62792.63D5D2B3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Milestone 2 of the VTP includes the Tellme Browser, = which launches voice applications on Tellme Studio via the Skype phone client. = Today we have only a Windows implementation.

 

The only part of the plugin that is OS-dependent is = the interface to the Skype client API from the Java environment. This is accomplished by creating a dynamic linkable library for the OS. In = Windows, this is a .dll file.

 

The Java-Skype interface involves a Java class that = provides methods to initialize, connect, send a message, and destroy the = connection. The Java class in turn calls on native methods (using JNI) which are = embodied in a platform-specific library. The platform-specific library is often = written in C or C++, and the Java SDK provides the proper include files for C/C++ to = define the JNI constructs. The Windows-specific library is written in = C++.

 

Skype has clients for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. = We would like to have versions of the Java-Skype interface for all the platforms. = To make the Java-Skype interface work on those platforms requires only that = a version of the platform-specific library be written for each platform. =

 

I have a volunteer developer working on the Mac OS X = version right now. But there is no one currently signed up for the Linux = version.   

 

Information about the Skype API implementation on = Linux can be found here:  http://share.skype.com/developer_zone/documentation/api_referen= ce/#Linux

 

A specification for the library interfaces is = attached.

 

n       = Mike

 

PS:  I will be out of the country for the next 3 = weeks, but Brent has a good idea of what is involved, too, and may be able to = answer questions.

 

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NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Wed Feb 1 19:58:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC572160B0 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA008EC for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AE08E6 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:58:35 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62793.CB549293" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:58:34 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online Thread-Index: AcYngPR4p+kXWwGKTbiSQ/5WdMn/vwAEc8PQ From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:58:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62793.CB549293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Bug 124906. I know what needs to be done to fix it, but have not had cycles to do the change. It is kind of hard to test, too, because it depends on an external event happening at just the wrong time. A good test would require hitting the mark within 2 seconds.=20 =20 Re: Documentation. Documentation continues to be pushed back in favor of handling bugs. I have spent some time on it today, and getting it organized is the first big hurdle. You modified the top level of the Voice Tools documentation, with Getting Started, Concepts, Tasks, and References. I keep thinking that each browser should be documented as an entity, and reconciling those points of view is slowing me down. =20 I still have tomorrow.=20 =20 I need to file a bug on the two Stop button pushed dialogs which I mentioned earlier, and if I were to try to fix anything, that happens much more readily than 124906. =20 -- Mike =20 ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:46 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online =20 Hi All,=20 Participation in our weekly development call has waned over the past month to 3-4 participants. There are over 60 people signed up for vtp-dev and I don't want to leave so many people out of the loop on development discussions. I believe they have helped get the word out on what's going but that the point of diminishing returns has been reached. For that reason I'd like to shift these discussions to the mailing list so there is a better written record.=20 Let me start up by reviewing the milestone plan, available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html. The current plan has us publishing a release candidate in two weeks with a release date of February 21, subject to the approval of the Eclipse Technology PMC. While yesterday's milestone release contains all of the function planned for the release, there are still many things left to do on the project, including unit tests, functional testing, bugzilla defect resolution, in-eclipse documentation, web tutorials, mandated website look and feel updates, and preparation of materials for the release review. These tasks all can benefit from help, even if the help is just complaints about what you'd like to see that's missing.=20 One portion of the release review is a discussion of the developer base. While I have previously spoken to some of you directly about your company's product plans with respect to the VTP I would like to hear more from others who are using the VTP. Beyond download statistics this is a hard thing to quantify so I am eager to hear from those of you out there who are finding it useful. This information is helpful in showing to the PMC that the project has an ecosystem of parties developing, extending, and directly using it.=20 Now that we have a milestone out it is a good time to verify bugs in the bugzilla database. If you have previously opened bugzilla bugs please install M2 and make sure the bugs are properly resolved. You may do this by going to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi and searching for bugs in the RESOLVED state with you as the bug reporter will yield a list of bugs that need to be verified.=20 Michael's last day before he goes on a three week vacation is the third, so now would also be a good time to actively try and break the Tellme browser :). Michael, the only actionable bug I am seeing in bugzilla is 124906 (Remote chance user will see log from previous session). Do you believe this will be resolved before you leave? Also, any update on the status of documentation for the Tellme browser?=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62793.CB549293 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Re: Bug 124906. I know what needs = to be done to fix it, but have not had cycles to do the change. It is kind of = hard to test, too, because it depends on an external event happening at just the = wrong time. A good test would require hitting the mark within 2 seconds. =

 

Re: Documentation. Documentation = continues to be pushed back in favor of handling bugs. I have spent some time on = it today, and getting it organized is the first big hurdle. You modified = the top level of the Voice Tools documentation, with Getting Started, Concepts, = Tasks, and References. I keep thinking that each browser should be documented = as an entity, and reconciling those points of view is slowing me = down.

 

I still have tomorrow. =

 

I need to file a bug on the two = Stop button pushed dialogs which I mentioned earlier, and if I were  to = try to fix anything, that happens much more readily than = 124906.

 

-- = Mike

 


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] = On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent: Wednesday, February = 01, 2006 2:46 PM
To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject: [vtp-dev] Moving = thursday development discussions online

 


Hi All,

Participation in our weekly development call has waned over the past month to 3-4 participants. There are over 60 people signed up for vtp-dev and I don't = want to leave so many people out of the loop on development discussions. I = believe they have helped get the word out on what's going but that the point of diminishing returns has been reached. For that reason I'd like to shift = these discussions to the mailing list so there is a better written = record.

Let me start up by reviewing the milestone plan, available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html. The current plan = has us publishing a release candidate in two weeks with a release date of = February 21, subject to the approval of the Eclipse Technology PMC. While yesterday's milestone release contains all of the function planned for the release, = there are still many things left to do on the project, including unit tests, functional testing, bugzilla defect resolution, in-eclipse = documentation, web tutorials, mandated website look and feel updates, and preparation of = materials for the release review. These tasks all can benefit from help, even if = the help is just complaints about what you'd like to see that's = missing.

One portion of the release review is a discussion of the developer base. = While I have previously spoken to some of you directly about your company's = product plans with respect to the VTP I would like to hear more from others who = are using the VTP. Beyond download statistics this is a hard thing to = quantify so I am eager to hear from those of you out there who are finding it useful. = This information is helpful in showing to the PMC that the project has an = ecosystem of parties developing, extending, and directly using it. =

Now that we have a milestone out it is a good time to verify bugs in the = bugzilla database. If you have previously opened bugzilla bugs please install M2 = and make sure the bugs are properly resolved. You may do this by going to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi and searching for bugs in the = RESOLVED state with you as the bug reporter will yield a list of bugs that need = to be verified.

Michael's last day before he goes on a three week vacation is the third, so now = would also be a good time to actively try and break the Tellme browser :). = Michael, the only actionable bug I am seeing in bugzilla is 124906 (Remote chance = user will see log from previous session). Do you believe this will be = resolved before you leave? Also, any update on the status of documentation for = the Tellme browser?

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay

------_=_NextPart_001_01C62793.CB549293-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Feb 1 20:09:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5331D160B0 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k121960P007135 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:09:06 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k121BSR9152968 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:11:28 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k12196JH020611 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:09:06 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k12196La020608 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:09:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:11:55 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 02/01/2006 18:11:57, Serialize complete at 02/01/2006 18:11:57 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0006512885257109_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 01:09:24 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0006512885257109_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Have you considered just getting rid of the dialogs altogether? I don't particularly like them, but maybe that's just because I've run way too many voicexml sessions in the last month. The user should be able to tell the session is over by the color of the top button or by looking at the debug view anyhow. Or you could throw a few log events saying the messages or into the status bar. In general documentation isn't as important because others can help there more easily. In fact it may even be better to have the documentation written by someone else! I'd prefer a getting started to seamlessly explain how to set up whatever's necessary to run the tellme browser and a 'how to run voicexml' section to mention it as well as one of a possible set of browsers. When a company goes to put the VTP code into a commercial product that might minimize the amount of changes they have to make. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/01/2006 07:58 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online Re: Bug 124906. I know what needs to be done to fix it, but have not had cycles to do the change. It is kind of hard to test, too, because it depends on an external event happening at just the wrong time. A good test would require hitting the mark within 2 seconds. Re: Documentation. Documentation continues to be pushed back in favor of handling bugs. I have spent some time on it today, and getting it organized is the first big hurdle. You modified the top level of the Voice Tools documentation, with Getting Started, Concepts, Tasks, and References. I keep thinking that each browser should be documented as an entity, and reconciling those points of view is slowing me down. I still have tomorrow. I need to file a bug on the two Stop button pushed dialogs which I mentioned earlier, and if I were to try to fix anything, that happens much more readily than 124906. -- Mike From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:46 PM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online Hi All, Participation in our weekly development call has waned over the past month to 3-4 participants. There are over 60 people signed up for vtp-dev and I don't want to leave so many people out of the loop on development discussions. I believe they have helped get the word out on what's going but that the point of diminishing returns has been reached. For that reason I'd like to shift these discussions to the mailing list so there is a better written record. Let me start up by reviewing the milestone plan, available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html. The current plan has us publishing a release candidate in two weeks with a release date of February 21, subject to the approval of the Eclipse Technology PMC. While yesterday's milestone release contains all of the function planned for the release, there are still many things left to do on the project, including unit tests, functional testing, bugzilla defect resolution, in-eclipse documentation, web tutorials, mandated website look and feel updates, and preparation of materials for the release review. These tasks all can benefit from help, even if the help is just complaints about what you'd like to see that's missing. One portion of the release review is a discussion of the developer base. While I have previously spoken to some of you directly about your company's product plans with respect to the VTP I would like to hear more from others who are using the VTP. Beyond download statistics this is a hard thing to quantify so I am eager to hear from those of you out there who are finding it useful. This information is helpful in showing to the PMC that the project has an ecosystem of parties developing, extending, and directly using it. Now that we have a milestone out it is a good time to verify bugs in the bugzilla database. If you have previously opened bugzilla bugs please install M2 and make sure the bugs are properly resolved. You may do this by going to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi and searching for bugs in the RESOLVED state with you as the bug reporter will yield a list of bugs that need to be verified. Michael's last day before he goes on a three week vacation is the third, so now would also be a good time to actively try and break the Tellme browser :). Michael, the only actionable bug I am seeing in bugzilla is 124906 (Remote chance user will see log from previous session). Do you believe this will be resolved before you leave? Also, any update on the status of documentation for the Tellme browser? -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 0006512885257109_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Have you considered just getting rid of the dialogs altogether? I don't particularly like them, but maybe that's just because I've run way too many voicexml sessions in the last month. The user should be able to tell the session is over by the color of the top button or by looking at the debug view anyhow. Or you could throw a few log events saying the messages or into the status bar.

In general documentation isn't as important because others can help there more easily. In fact it may even be better to have the documentation written by someone else!

I'd prefer a getting started to seamlessly explain how to set up whatever's necessary to run the tellme browser and a 'how to run voicexml' section to mention it as well as one of a possible set of browsers. When a company goes to put the VTP code into a commercial product that might minimize the amount of changes they have to make.

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"Michael Greenawalt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
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Re: Bug 124906. I know what needs to be done to fix it, but have not had cycles to do the change. It is kind of hard to test, too, because it depends on an external event happening at just the wrong time. A good test would require hitting the mark within 2 seconds.
 
Re: Documentation. Documentation continues to be pushed back in favor of handling bugs. I have spent some time on it today, and getting it organized is the first big hurdle. You modified the top level of the Voice Tools documentation, with Getting Started, Concepts, Tasks, and References. I keep thinking that each browser should be documented as an entity, and reconciling those points of view is slowing me down.
 
I still have tomorrow.
 
I need to file a bug on the two Stop button pushed dialogs which I mentioned earlier, and if I were  to try to fix anything, that happens much more readily than 124906.
 
-- Mike
 



From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
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To:
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Subject:
[vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online

 

Hi All,


Participation in our weekly development call has waned over the past month to 3-4 participants. There are over 60 people signed up for vtp-dev and I don't want to leave so many people out of the loop on development discussions. I believe they have helped get the word out on what's going but that the point of diminishing returns has been reached. For that reason I'd like to shift these discussions to the mailing list so there is a better written record.


Let me start up by reviewing the milestone plan, available at http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/VTP_Milestone_Plan_1.0.html. The current plan has us publishing a release candidate in two weeks with a release date of February 21, subject to the approval of the Eclipse Technology PMC. While yesterday's milestone release contains all of the function planned for the release, there are still many things left to do on the project, including unit tests, functional testing, bugzilla defect resolution, in-eclipse documentation, web tutorials, mandated website look and feel updates, and preparation of materials for the release review. These tasks all can benefit from help, even if the help is just complaints about what you'd like to see that's missing.


One portion of the release review is a discussion of the developer base. While I have previously spoken to some of you directly about your company's product plans with respect to the VTP I would like to hear more from others who are using the VTP. Beyond download statistics this is a hard thing to quantify so I am eager to hear from those of you out there who are finding it useful. This information is helpful in showing to the PMC that the project has an ecosystem of parties developing, extending, and directly using it.


Now that we have a milestone out it is a good time to verify bugs in the bugzilla database. If you have previously opened bugzilla bugs please install M2 and make sure the bugs are properly resolved. You may do this by going to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/query.cgi and searching for bugs in the RESOLVED state with you as the bug reporter will yield a list of bugs that need to be verified.


Michael's last day before he goes on a three week vacation is the third, so now would also be a good time to actively try and break the Tellme browser :). Michael, the only actionable bug I am seeing in bugzilla is 124906 (Remote chance user will see log from previous session). Do you believe this will be resolved before you leave? Also, any update on the status of documentation for the Tellme browser?


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--=_alternative 0006512885257109_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Thu Feb 2 20:58:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45E6A1C5BAB for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 20:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518DF350D for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE4C3508 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:58:35 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62865.5770FCB7" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:58:34 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Help plugin for Tellme Browser Thread-Index: AcYoZVcqyIDPiapkSTOmV4yfKKrckg== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] Help plugin for Tellme Browser X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:58:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62865.5770FCB7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just checked in a Help plugin for the Tellme Browser.=20 =20 It is org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.doc under the simdebug/plugins directory. =20 Criticisms are welcome. =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62865.5770FCB7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just checked in a Help plugin for the Tellme = Browser.

 

It is org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.doc under the simdebug/plugins directory.

 

Criticisms are welcome.

 

-- Mike

------_=_NextPart_001_01C62865.5770FCB7-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Thu Feb 2 21:14:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E789618099 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B23D917 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32161901 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:14:15 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62867.87BDD313" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:14:14 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon Thread-Index: AcYmfwvkk9y7slYjSCq6AIbk07UcHQB6GFXg From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:14:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62867.87BDD313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I created an account, NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot =20 I will be going to EclipseCon for sure. =20 -- Mike =20 ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:00 AM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon =20 I have submitted an application for a short talk at EclipseCon:=20 http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D435=20 If anyone is going to EclipseCon and is interested in helping with the presentation please create an account on the Eclipsezilla system and let me know so that I can add you.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62867.87BDD313 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I created an account, NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot

 

I will be going to EclipseCon for = sure.

 

-- = Mike

 


From: = mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent: Tuesday, January = 31, 2006 8:00 AM
To: = UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
Subject: [vtp-dev] Short = talk at EclipseCon

 


I have submitted an application for a short talk = at EclipseCon:

http://canuck.gda.itesm= .mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D435

If anyone is going to EclipseCon and is interested in helping with the presentation please create an account on the Eclipsezilla system and let = me know so that I can add you.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay

------_=_NextPart_001_01C62867.87BDD313-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Feb 2 23:26:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2318F17D10 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 23:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k134Qn0s030664 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 23:26:49 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k134OpXd057436 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:24:51 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k134Qm9v028259 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:26:48 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k134Qmcf028253 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:26:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 23:29:39 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 02/02/2006 21:29:39, Serialize complete at 02/02/2006 21:29:39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 001869508525710A_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:26:51 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 001869508525710A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Great, you just got enlisted :) -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/02/2006 09:14 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon I created an account, NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot I will be going to EclipseCon for sure. -- Mike From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:00 AM To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon I have submitted an application for a short talk at EclipseCon: http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=435 If anyone is going to EclipseCon and is interested in helping with the presentation please create an account on the Eclipsezilla system and let me know so that I can add you. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 001869508525710A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Great, you just got enlisted :)

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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



"Michael Greenawalt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
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I created an account, NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot
 
I will be going to EclipseCon for sure.
 
-- Mike
 



From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:00 AM
To:
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[vtp-dev] Short talk at EclipseCon

 

I have submitted an application for a short talk at EclipseCon:


http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=435


If anyone is going to EclipseCon and is interested in helping with the presentation please create an account on the Eclipsezilla system and let me know so that I can add you.


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Enterprise Voice Tools
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--=_alternative 001869508525710A_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Feb 3 12:14:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48A4D1C8B99 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k13HEYuU032296 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:14:34 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k13HCZcY269558 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:12:35 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k13HEXPY005754 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:14:33 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k13HEXYs005751; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:14:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Need library for Eclipse - Skype link on Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:17:24 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF90 | November 16, 2005) at 02/03/2006 10:17:25, Serialize complete at 02/03/2006 10:17:25 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005EB43F8525710A_=" Cc: Matthew Johnson X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:14:48 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005EB43F8525710A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I'd like to note that Matthew Johnson has generously allowed his DBus java bindings at the URL below to be licensed under the terms of the EPL. It should greatly simplify adding linux support. Thanks, Matthew! http://www.matthew.ath.cx/projects/java/ -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/01/2006 07:48 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject [vtp-dev] Need library for Eclipse - Skype link on Linux Milestone 2 of the VTP includes the Tellme Browser, which launches voice applications on Tellme Studio via the Skype phone client. Today we have only a Windows implementation. The only part of the plugin that is OS-dependent is the interface to the Skype client API from the Java environment. This is accomplished by creating a dynamic linkable library for the OS. In Windows, this is a .dll file. The Java-Skype interface involves a Java class that provides methods to initialize, connect, send a message, and destroy the connection. The Java class in turn calls on native methods (using JNI) which are embodied in a platform-specific library. The platform-specific library is often written in C or C++, and the Java SDK provides the proper include files for C/C++ to define the JNI constructs. The Windows-specific library is written in C++. Skype has clients for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. We would like to have versions of the Java-Skype interface for all the platforms. To make the Java-Skype interface work on those platforms requires only that a version of the platform-specific library be written for each platform. I have a volunteer developer working on the Mac OS X version right now. But there is no one currently signed up for the Linux version. Information about the Skype API implementation on Linux can be found here: http://share.skype.com/developer_zone/documentation/api_reference/#Linux A specification for the library interfaces is attached. n Mike PS: I will be out of the country for the next 3 weeks, but Brent has a good idea of what is involved, too, and may be able to answer questions. [attachment "Specifications for SkDialer library.doc" deleted by Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM] _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 005EB43F8525710A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I'd like to note that Matthew Johnson has generously allowed his DBus java bindings at the URL below to be licensed under the terms of the EPL. It should greatly simplify adding linux support. Thanks, Matthew!

http://www.matthew.ath.cx/projects/java/

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"Michael Greenawalt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
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[vtp-dev] Need library for Eclipse - Skype link on Linux





Milestone 2 of the VTP includes the Tellme Browser, which launches voice applications on Tellme Studio via the Skype phone client. Today we have only a Windows implementation.
 
The only part of the plugin that is OS-dependent is the interface to the Skype client API from the Java environment. This is accomplished by creating a dynamic linkable library for the OS. In Windows, this is a .dll file.
 
The Java-Skype interface involves a Java class that provides methods to initialize, connect, send a message, and destroy the connection. The Java class in turn calls on native methods (using JNI) which are embodied in a platform-specific library. The platform-specific library is often written in C or C++, and the Java SDK provides the proper include files for C/C++ to define the JNI constructs. The Windows-specific library is written in C++.
 
Skype has clients for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. We would like to have versions of the Java-Skype interface for all the platforms. To make the Java-Skype interface work on those platforms requires only that a version of the platform-specific library be written for each platform.
 
I have a volunteer developer working on the Mac OS X version right now. But there is no one currently signed up for the Linux version.  
 
Information about the Skype API implementation on Linux can be found here:  http://share.skype.com/developer_zone/documentation/api_reference/#Linux
 
A specification for the library interfaces is attached.
 
n       Mike
 
PS:  I will be out of the country for the next 3 weeks, but Brent has a good idea of what is involved, too, and may be able to answer questions.
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--=_alternative 005EB43F8525710A_=-- From uJZSa4VyKq52+Bil@W1U4hedQIyy8mpdW Fri Feb 3 18:59:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.195]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC32E161EC for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 18:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from 203-206-128-239.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [192.168.100.100]) ([203.206.128.239]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Feb 2006 07:59:41 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.02,87,1139155200"; d="scan'208"; a="341768452:sNHT16954764" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:59:33 +1100 From: david varnes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Moving thursday development discussions online References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:59:45 -0000 Brent D Metz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Participation in our weekly development call has waned over the past > month to 3-4 participants. There are over 60 people signed up for > vtp-dev and I don't want to leave so many people out of the loop on > development discussions. I believe they have helped get the word out on > what's going but that the point of diminishing returns has been reached. > For that reason I'd like to shift these discussions to the mailing list > so there is a better written record. > This is a good outcome for those of us in time-zones that could not make the phone call ! :-) thanks davidv (UTC+10) From TwLlXXB2wMQanKsv@rehTLm/3T16yNYN0 Fri Feb 3 19:09:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.103]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 212AA161EB for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k1405KUm015983 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:05:20 -0500 Received: from CAQ010AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h148-147-57-33.avaya.com [148.147.57.33]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id k14060QH016228 for ; 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boundary="=_alternative 00119BDF8525710F_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] New VTP page X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:12:27 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00119BDF8525710F_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I've updated the VTP page to match the new Eclipse.org look-and-feel. Take a look! http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/ The FAQ section is missing questions and is just a placeholder. Does anyone have a few sample questions about the project they'd like to suggest? I must admit I'm in no position to get in the mind of someone who just started looking at the project for the first time! -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00119BDF8525710F_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I've updated the VTP page to match the new Eclipse.org look-and-feel. Take a look!

http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/

The FAQ section is missing questions and is just a placeholder. Does anyone have a few sample questions about the project they'd like to suggest? I must admit I'm in no position to get in the mind of someone who just started looking at the project for the first time!

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00119BDF8525710F_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Feb 8 11:41:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B242E13734 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k18GfWXn006593 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:41:32 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k18GhwiN182470 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:43:58 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k18GfVf9031203 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:41:31 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k18GfVnX031192 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:41:31 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:44:22 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/08/2006 09:44:23, Serialize complete at 02/08/2006 09:44:23 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005BAE4C8525710F_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Dialogs on error/success of browser session X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:41:36 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005BAE4C8525710F_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" While attempting to script multiple sessions of the tellme browser using the VTP APIs I realized that the dialogs it is bringing up on completion and failure prevent sequential runs from being scripted. I've opened an enhancement request on the matter: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=126932 If no one objects I'd like to implement a non-blocking communication of the messages in these dialogs in the next few days. Please comment on the bug if you think it should stay the way it is currently. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 005BAE4C8525710F_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
While attempting to script multiple sessions of the tellme browser using the VTP APIs I realized that the dialogs it is bringing up on completion and failure prevent sequential runs from being scripted. I've opened an enhancement request on the matter:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=126932

If no one objects I'd like to implement a non-blocking communication of the messages in these dialogs in the next few days. Please comment on the bug if you think it should stay the way it is currently.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 005BAE4C8525710F_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Feb 9 16:43:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A29A18200 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k19LhETx007729 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:43:14 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k19LjhWW171110 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:45:43 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k19LhEg6031752 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:43:14 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k19LhEkh031742 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:43:14 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:46:05 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/09/2006 14:46:07, Serialize complete at 02/09/2006 14:46:07 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00774CB885257110_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Update X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:43:17 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00774CB885257110_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, As we continue to refine the builds I thought I'd stop and fill in everyone on what's going on. The march to stabilization continues, with largely minor defects or enhancement requests remaining. Still, even those continue to dwindle. If you have been noticing odd behavior, please consider opening a bug! Now is the time to investigate any seemingly innocent problems you may encounter. Along with this there are a number of defects that need to be verified. If you opened any bugs please take the time to verify that they are fixed in the latest builds. One issue that arose this week is the lack of notice.html/epl-v10.html in zip file root directories. As this is a requirement of all Eclipse.org software I've updated our build scripts to include the files in the eclipse/ directory and revised all available builds. Since the WTP all in one SDK contains these files too you'll now get a notice to overwrite existing files when you install VTP builds. Along with code there are a number of documentation updates pending, notably surrounding the launching of a VoiceXML session. This should be resolved within a few days. Much of the content will be mirrored on the web site in the form of tutorials, such as how the getting started guide on the VTP web site will make an appearance in both the Eclipse documentation and on the web. In terms of upcoming presentations there is a short talk scheduled at EclipseCon next month for the VTP. If you are attending be sure and stop by! -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00774CB885257110_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

As we continue to refine the builds I thought I'd stop and fill in everyone on what's going on. The march to stabilization continues, with largely minor defects or enhancement requests remaining. Still, even those continue to dwindle. If you have been noticing odd behavior, please consider opening a bug! Now is the time to investigate any seemingly innocent problems you may encounter. Along with this there are a number of defects that need to be verified. If you opened any bugs please take the time to verify that they are fixed in the latest builds.

One issue that arose this week is the lack of notice.html/epl-v10.html in zip file root directories. As this is a requirement of all Eclipse.org software I've updated our build scripts to include the files in the eclipse/ directory and revised all available builds. Since the WTP all in one SDK contains these files too you'll now get a notice to overwrite existing files when you install VTP builds.

Along with code there are a number of documentation updates pending, notably surrounding the launching of a VoiceXML session. This should be resolved within a few days. Much of the content will be mirrored on the web site in the form of tutorials, such as how the getting started guide on the VTP web site will make an appearance in both the Eclipse documentation and on the web. In terms of upcoming presentations there is a short talk scheduled at EclipseCon next month for the VTP. If you are attending be sure and stop by!

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00774CB885257110_=-- From VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Thu Feb 9 17:32:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EEEE137D8 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E687350A for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E3A3507 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:32:33 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:32:32 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Thread-Index: AcYsXYE0M/ryFgE5SvaNqu2PmAzgrABap5og From: "Shaun Guth" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:32:45 -0000 Hi Brent, I like the new look! I ran into a problem looking for information on how to check out the CVS code anonymously. Perhaps a quick how-to under the 'Development' menu, or this might be a good candidate for the FAQ page. I ended up using google to search for "CVS checkout of Eclipse VTP" and found an IBM DeveloperWorks article you authored that mentions it :) -- Shaun Guth Tellme Networks, Inc. VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot > -----Original Message----- > From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On > Behalf Of Brent D Metz > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:15 PM > To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg > Subject: [vtp-dev] New VTP page >=20 >=20 > I've updated the VTP page to match the new Eclipse.org look-and-feel. Take a > look! >=20 > http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/ >=20 > The FAQ section is missing questions and is just a placeholder. Does anyone > have a few sample questions about the project they'd like to suggest? I must > admit I'm in no position to get in the mind of someone who just started > looking at the project for the first time! >=20 > -- > Brent D. Metz > Enterprise Voice Tools > kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ > "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - > Alan Kay From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Feb 9 19:56:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C6E7164C5 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1A0uT2q026795 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:56:29 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1A0sM47037604 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:54:22 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1A0uT2Q009200 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:56:29 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1A0uKea008378 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:56:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:59:11 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/09/2006 17:59:13, Serialize complete at 02/09/2006 17:59:13 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000525BF85257111_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:56:33 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000525BF85257111_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Good idea! You know this is something that I wish was provided in a sourceforge style template for every project. Rather than wait for that, let me try putting together something simple.. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Shaun Guth" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/09/2006 05:32 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Hi Brent, I like the new look! I ran into a problem looking for information on how to check out the CVS code anonymously. Perhaps a quick how-to under the 'Development' menu, or this might be a good candidate for the FAQ page. I ended up using google to search for "CVS checkout of Eclipse VTP" and found an IBM DeveloperWorks article you authored that mentions it :) -- Shaun Guth Tellme Networks, Inc. VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot > -----Original Message----- > From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On > Behalf Of Brent D Metz > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:15 PM > To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg > Subject: [vtp-dev] New VTP page > > > I've updated the VTP page to match the new Eclipse.org look-and-feel. Take a > look! > > http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/ > > The FAQ section is missing questions and is just a placeholder. Does anyone > have a few sample questions about the project they'd like to suggest? I must > admit I'm in no position to get in the mind of someone who just started > looking at the project for the first time! > > -- > Brent D. Metz > Enterprise Voice Tools > kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ > "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - > Alan Kay _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 000525BF85257111_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Good idea! You know this is something that I wish was provided in a sourceforge style template for every project. Rather than wait for that, let me try putting together something simple..

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



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Hi Brent,

I like the new look!  I ran into a problem looking for information on
how to check out the CVS code anonymously.  Perhaps a quick how-to under
the 'Development' menu, or this might be a good candidate for the FAQ
page.

I ended up using google to search for "CVS checkout of Eclipse VTP" and
found an IBM DeveloperWorks article you authored that mentions it :)


-- Shaun Guth
Tellme Networks, Inc.
VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]
On
> Behalf Of Brent D Metz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:15 PM
> To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
> Subject: [vtp-dev] New VTP page
>
>
> I've updated the VTP page to match the new Eclipse.org look-and-feel.
Take a
> look!
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/
>
> The FAQ section is missing questions and is just a placeholder. Does
anyone
> have a few sample questions about the project they'd like to suggest?
I must
> admit I'm in no position to get in the mind of someone who just
started
> looking at the project for the first time!
>
> --
> Brent D. Metz
> Enterprise Voice Tools
> kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
> "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be
possible." -
> Alan Kay
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--=_alternative 000525BF85257111_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Feb 10 20:26:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BD4A1653F for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1B1QpAc017632 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:26:51 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1B1OhIC192080 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:24:43 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1B1QpdQ022104 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:26:51 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1B1QpZJ022099 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:26:51 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:29:43 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/10/2006 18:29:44, Serialize complete at 02/10/2006 18:29:44 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0007EE3B85257112_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:26:53 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0007EE3B85257112_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here: http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/09/2006 07:59 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To Voice Tools general developers cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Good idea! You know this is something that I wish was provided in a sourceforge style template for every project. Rather than wait for that, let me try putting together something simple.. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Shaun Guth" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/09/2006 05:32 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Hi Brent, I like the new look! I ran into a problem looking for information on how to check out the CVS code anonymously. Perhaps a quick how-to under the 'Development' menu, or this might be a good candidate for the FAQ page. I ended up using google to search for "CVS checkout of Eclipse VTP" and found an IBM DeveloperWorks article you authored that mentions it :) -- Shaun Guth Tellme Networks, Inc. VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot > -----Original Message----- > From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On > Behalf Of Brent D Metz > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:15 PM > To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg > Subject: [vtp-dev] New VTP page > > > I've updated the VTP page to match the new Eclipse.org look-and-feel. Take a > look! > > http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/ > > The FAQ section is missing questions and is just a placeholder. Does anyone > have a few sample questions about the project they'd like to suggest? I must > admit I'm in no position to get in the mind of someone who just started > looking at the project for the first time! > > -- > Brent D. Metz > Enterprise Voice Tools > kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ > "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - > Alan Kay _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 0007EE3B85257112_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here:

http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php

It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS
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02/09/2006 07:59 PM
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To
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Subject
RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page






Good idea! You know this is something that I wish was provided in a sourceforge style template for every project. Rather than wait for that, let me try putting together something simple..


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay


"Shaun Guth" <VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

02/09/2006 05:32 PM
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To
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cc
Subject
RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page







Hi Brent,

I like the new look!  I ran into a problem looking for information on
how to check out the CVS code anonymously.  Perhaps a quick how-to under
the 'Development' menu, or this might be a good candidate for the FAQ
page.

I ended up using google to search for "CVS checkout of Eclipse VTP" and
found an IBM DeveloperWorks article you authored that mentions it :)


-- Shaun Guth
Tellme Networks, Inc.
VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]
On
> Behalf Of Brent D Metz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:15 PM
> To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
> Subject: [vtp-dev] New VTP page
>
>
> I've updated the VTP page to match the new Eclipse.org look-and-feel.
Take a
> look!
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/
>
> The FAQ section is missing questions and is just a placeholder. Does
anyone
> have a few sample questions about the project they'd like to suggest?
I must
> admit I'm in no position to get in the mind of someone who just
started
> looking at the project for the first time!
>
> --
> Brent D. Metz
> Enterprise Voice Tools
> kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
> "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be
possible." -
> Alan Kay
_______________________________________________
vtp-dev mailing list
UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev

_______________________________________________
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--=_alternative 0007EE3B85257112_=-- From VW4/nUfIZep49w7T@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Feb 10 22:53:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 308271E70AA for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1B3rDe3028090 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:53:13 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1B3p4IC240346 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:51:04 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1B3rC0M001670 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:53:12 -0700 Received: from d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.145]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1B3rC6V001662 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:53:12 -0700 From: Jeff Kobal To: Voice Tools general developers Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:55:18 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM119/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF654 | July 22, 2005) at 02/10/2006 20:55:18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; Boundary="0__=08BBFB81DF860C618f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB81DF860C61" Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [vtp-dev] Jeff Kobal/Boca Raton/IBM is out of the office. X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:53:14 -0000 --0__=08BBFB81DF860C618f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB81DF860C61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I will be out of the office starting 02/10/2006 and will not return until 02/14/2006. I will respond to your message when I return. --0__=08BBFB81DF860C618f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB81DF860C61 Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline

I will be out of the office starting 02/10/2006 and will not return until 02/14/2006.

I will respond to your message when I return. --0__=08BBFB81DF860C618f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB81DF860C61-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Feb 13 11:57:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED42217B8D for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1DGv46l012249 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:57:04 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1DGsq9i266326 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:54:52 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1DGv4T9007456 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:57:04 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1DGv43q007229 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:57:04 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:59:53 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/13/2006 09:59:58, Serialize complete at 02/13/2006 09:59:58 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005D19FC85257114_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Stabilization X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:57:08 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005D19FC85257114_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Today's daily VTP build should be very stable and I encourage everyone to take a look and make sure that they are seeing good results ahead of tomorrow's deliverable. To finish bringing the codebase up to Eclipse guidelines I renamed some packages, brought our icons into the proper palette and scanned the code for unexternalized strings. Additionally the in-eclipse documentation was enhanced with some new topics. Please focus your attention on making sure that icons and strings appear correctly as this is the sort of thing that might've gone wrong in the change. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 005D19FC85257114_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Today's daily VTP build should be very stable and I encourage everyone to take a look and make sure that they are seeing good results ahead of tomorrow's deliverable. To finish bringing the codebase up to Eclipse guidelines I renamed some packages, brought our icons into the proper palette and scanned the code for unexternalized strings. Additionally the in-eclipse documentation was enhanced with some new topics. Please focus your attention on making sure that icons and strings appear correctly as this is the sort of thing that might've gone wrong in the change.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 005D19FC85257114_=-- From VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Mon Feb 13 19:31:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 430821F300A for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:31:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AF291D for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F708E8 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:31:21 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:31:23 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Thread-Index: AcYuqkNZQbkRrJQ2QweYOlGEF6FwWgCU2cQg From: "Shaun Guth" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:31:28 -0000 > I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here: > http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php >=20 > It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think. Great guide! Can this get linked from the main "Development" menu (or off the CVS page perhaps)? I'm worried that once it falls off the project news, prospective developers (and I...) won't be able to find it again =3D) -- Shaun From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Feb 13 19:35:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C4F3166F0 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1E0Za65010344 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:35:36 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1E0c74D162970 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:38:07 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1E0ZZss023732 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:35:36 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1E0ZZO1023729 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:35:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:38:30 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/13/2006 17:38:29, Serialize complete at 02/13/2006 17:38:29 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000340F485257115_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:35:37 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000340F485257115_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Good point. I'm not sure how to do that actually - that menu is created programmatically from a general project template. Let me see if I can figure it out.. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Shaun Guth" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/13/2006 07:31 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page > I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here: > http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php > > It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think. Great guide! Can this get linked from the main "Development" menu (or off the CVS page perhaps)? I'm worried that once it falls off the project news, prospective developers (and I...) won't be able to find it again =) -- Shaun _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 000340F485257115_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Good point. I'm not sure how to do that actually - that menu is created programmatically from a general project template. Let me see if I can figure it out..

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> I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here:
> http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php
>
> It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think.

Great guide!  Can this get linked from the main "Development" menu (or
off the CVS page perhaps)?  I'm worried that once it falls off the
project news, prospective developers (and I...) won't be able to find it
again =)

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--=_alternative 000340F485257115_=-- From hk/TU48oK2tZDjIh@rTKp8WvYGAVUbsEJ Mon Feb 13 19:42:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from flph024.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (sbcsmtp9.sbc.com [144.160.128.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D8A71F30C0 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph024.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1E0gAkY009470 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:42:10 -0800 Received: from CAFRFD1MSGHUB02.ITServices.sbc.com (cafrfd1msghub02.itservices.sbc.com [150.234.129.43]) by flph024.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1E0gAPu009467 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:42:10 -0800 Received: from CAFRFD1MSGUSR15.ITServices.sbc.com ([150.234.129.23]) by CAFRFD1MSGHUB02.ITServices.sbc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:42:10 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C630FF.7D25DA21" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:42:10 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Thread-Index: AcYw/pnEkjNeY6u5R1yR7fyGcBop+gAAB/6A From: "THOMAS, JAYANT (SBCSI)" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2006 00:42:10.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D4B5300:01C630FF] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.0.0.1345-3.52.1006-14266.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--24.940000-0.000000-31 X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:42:17 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C630FF.7D25DA21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I was able to install the tool successfully but not able to Run the vxml browser, the run is not highlighted is there anything else I need to know. thanks Jayant=20 -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:39 PM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page =09 =09 Good point. I'm not sure how to do that actually - that menu is created programmatically from a general project template. Let me see if I can figure it out..=20 =09 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay=20 =09 =09 =09 "Shaun Guth" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 02/13/2006 07:31 PM=20 Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" =20 cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page =09 > I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here: > http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php >=20 > It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think. =09 Great guide! Can this get linked from the main "Development" menu (or off the CVS page perhaps)? I'm worried that once it falls off the project news, prospective developers (and I...) won't be able to find it again =3D) =09 -- Shaun _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C630FF.7D25DA21 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Hi=20 All,
I was=20 able to install the tool successfully but not able to Run the vxml = browser, the=20 run is not highlighted is there anything else I need to=20 know.
thanks
Jayant=20
------_=_NextPart_001_01C630FF.7D25DA21-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Mon Feb 13 19:50:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64083166F2 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1E0oUx0020205 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:50:30 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1E0r24D180540 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:53:02 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1E0oUEn018403 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:50:30 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1E0oU7Z018398 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:50:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:53:24 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/13/2006 17:53:24, Serialize complete at 02/13/2006 17:53:24 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00049CC085257115_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:50:34 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00049CC085257115_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >From the newsgroup it seems a lot of people are hitting this bug. Could you try the daily build again? I re-spun the build with a looser set of checks that should resolve it, but I have been unable to reproduce the problem so I can't be sure. If you're able, could you email me the values you are putting into the dialog? For password/pin just lengths and a description of the non-alphanumeric characters would be alright. For example there appeared to be a bug with the handling of spaces on the beginning or end of the password. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "THOMAS, JAYANT (SBCSI)" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/13/2006 07:42 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Hi All, I was able to install the tool successfully but not able to Run the vxml browser, the run is not highlighted is there anything else I need to know. thanks Jayant -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:39 PM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page Good point. I'm not sure how to do that actually - that menu is created programmatically from a general project template. Let me see if I can figure it out.. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Shaun Guth" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/13/2006 07:31 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New VTP page > I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here: > http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php > > It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think. Great guide! Can this get linked from the main "Development" menu (or off the CVS page perhaps)? I'm worried that once it falls off the project news, prospective developers (and I...) won't be able to find it again =) -- Shaun _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 00049CC085257115_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
From the newsgroup it seems a lot of people are hitting this bug. Could you try the daily build again? I re-spun the build with a looser set of checks that should resolve it, but I have been unable to reproduce the problem so I can't be sure. If you're able, could you email me the values you are putting into the dialog? For password/pin just lengths and a description of the non-alphanumeric characters would be alright. For example there appeared to be a bug with the handling of spaces on the beginning or end of the password.

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Enterprise Voice Tools
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Hi All,
I was able to install the tool successfully but not able to Run the vxml browser, the run is not highlighted is there anything else I need to know.
thanks
Jayant
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Good point. I'm not sure how to do that actually - that menu is created programmatically from a general project template. Let me see if I can figure it out..


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Enterprise Voice Tools
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> I've posted a guide to getting a development environment set up here:
> http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php
>
> It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think.

Great guide!  Can this get linked from the main "Development" menu (or
off the CVS page perhaps)?  I'm worried that once it falls off the
project news, prospective developers (and I...) won't be able to find it
again =)

-- Shaun
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--=_alternative 00049CC085257115_=-- From VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Tue Feb 14 03:20:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7437D1674E for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413293508 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFA03507 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:20:01 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:20:01 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: vtp-dev messages Thread-Index: AcYxCzgHnF4jS874QriNIUuGQCeMhwANC3DQ From: "Shaun Guth" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:20:06 -0000 From: Mike Greenawalt [mailto:mike_C/Qa8dVhJFv0XzKY@Pdc2Tg+DxXH8bOgD]=20 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:06 PM To: Shaun Guth Subject: vtp-dev messages Shaun - I have taken a look at the vtp-dev archive on eclipse.org. Good to see you are participating. Are you making progress on the Mac=20 library? There are a couple of messages regarding the fact that the Run button does=20 not activate on the configuration dialog. Thinking about it, the problem is=20 possibly that folks have not filled in the ID and PIN boxes if they are=20 using autologin on Studio. I made the code do a validity check on all the=20 fields and if the validity check fails, the Run button will not be active.=20 The email address has to contain an @ sign. The password has rules specified=20 by Studio, and those are followed completely. The ID and PIN are checked for=20 length and for all digits. This should be reported as a bug, and I should fix so that if the checkbox=20 is checked, the PIN and ID are not validated. Can you post this to vtp-dev for me? I cannot get on there from this=20 computer as my password is on my flash drive and I cannot put it into this=20 machine. Say hi to folks for me. We are having a great time "living" in Nelson,=20 though it is a bit rainier than we thought it would be this time of year. -- Mike From VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Tue Feb 14 03:30:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B7761674E for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A992923 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521F921 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:30:24 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:30:24 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages Thread-Index: AcYxCzgHnF4jS874QriNIUuGQCeMhwANC3DQAAAepiA= From: "Shaun Guth" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:30:28 -0000 > Good to see you are participating. Are you making progress on the Mac > library? Hi guys, I think I sent my last email to Mike only, so I thought I'd update the list with my progress report from 2/6 on the Skype dialer library for Mac OSX: I spent a weekend hacking away at the SkDialer JNI library. I ran into some problems with the Skype API. The good news: I managed to get my libSkDialer.jnilib loaded by your Eclipse plugin, executing my obj-c code, setting the callbacks correctly and communicating with them, etc. So far so good! The bad news (20h): The Cocoa API for Skype relies on me having a running CFRunLoop, which I can't run in a separate thread due to limitations of OSX (It will run a little bit, but then crash and die horribly). I presume that Eclipse on Mac OSX would be running a CFRunLoop itself, but if it is, I don't know how to connect to it. I tried getting an instance of the current loop using: NSRunLoop * loop =3D [NSRunLoop currentRunLoop]; then adding an NSTimer to it, but the timer never fires. If I add an: [[NSApplication sharedApplication] run] Things work, the timers fire, and the application crashes and burns the JVM. I might be able to use an ugly hack of spawning a separate process (using NSTask) and communicate with it via local pipes (icky) -- but I'd rather not go this route. I sent a note about this to the skype developer forums and I've got the primary developer on my buddy list in the hopes of catching him online, but so far I haven't got any good responses. If anyone knows how I can get at the runloop Eclipse is using, that'd be great!=20 -- Shaun From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Feb 14 09:49:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 719BD1F7CD3 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EEn1oE009216 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:49:01 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1EEpX0e183608 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:51:33 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1EEn1JH028690 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:49:01 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EEn11w028687 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:49:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:51:54 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/14/2006 07:51:55, Serialize complete at 02/14/2006 07:51:55 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0051567F85257115_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:49:12 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0051567F85257115_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Word on the newsgroup from one of the original reporters is that my changes yesterday fixed the issue. Stefan said that his password was too short relative to the requirements, in case we want to tighten back up the checking again after the release. Maybe there is a way to sneak a < 7 character password or < 4 char PIN by studio? -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Shaun Guth" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/14/2006 03:20 AM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages From: Mike Greenawalt [mailto:mike_C/Qa8dVhJFv0XzKY@Pdc2Tg+DxXH8bOgD] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:06 PM To: Shaun Guth Subject: vtp-dev messages Shaun - I have taken a look at the vtp-dev archive on eclipse.org. Good to see you are participating. Are you making progress on the Mac library? There are a couple of messages regarding the fact that the Run button does not activate on the configuration dialog. Thinking about it, the problem is possibly that folks have not filled in the ID and PIN boxes if they are using autologin on Studio. I made the code do a validity check on all the fields and if the validity check fails, the Run button will not be active. The email address has to contain an @ sign. The password has rules specified by Studio, and those are followed completely. The ID and PIN are checked for length and for all digits. This should be reported as a bug, and I should fix so that if the checkbox is checked, the PIN and ID are not validated. Can you post this to vtp-dev for me? I cannot get on there from this computer as my password is on my flash drive and I cannot put it into this machine. Say hi to folks for me. We are having a great time "living" in Nelson, though it is a bit rainier than we thought it would be this time of year. -- Mike _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 0051567F85257115_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Word on the newsgroup from one of the original reporters is that my changes yesterday fixed the issue. Stefan said that his password was too short relative to the requirements, in case we want to tighten back up the checking again after the release. Maybe there is a way to sneak a < 7 character password or < 4 char PIN by studio?

--
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Enterprise Voice Tools
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From: Mike Greenawalt [mailto:mike_C/Qa8dVhJFv0XzKY@Pdc2Tg+DxXH8bOgD]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:06 PM
To: Shaun Guth
Subject: vtp-dev messages

Shaun -

I have taken a look at the vtp-dev archive on eclipse.org.

Good to see you are participating. Are you making progress on the Mac
library?

There are a couple of messages regarding the fact that the Run button
does
not activate on the configuration dialog.  Thinking about it, the
problem is
possibly that folks have not filled in the ID and PIN boxes if they are
using autologin on Studio. I made the code do a validity check on all
the
fields and if the validity check fails, the Run button will not be
active.
The email address has to contain an @ sign. The password has rules
specified
by Studio, and those are followed completely. The ID and PIN are checked
for
length and for all digits.

This should be reported as a bug, and I should fix so that if the
checkbox
is checked, the PIN and ID are not validated.

Can you post this to vtp-dev for me? I cannot get on there from this
computer as my password is on my flash drive and I cannot put it into
this
machine.

Say hi to folks for me. We are having a great time "living" in Nelson,
though it is a bit rainier than we thought it would be this time of
year.

-- Mike
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--=_alternative 0051567F85257115_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Feb 14 10:25:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A55BD12A9E for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EFPRVr007332 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:25:27 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1EFNDEL258246 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:23:13 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1EFPQjZ019102 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:25:26 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EFPQF2019089 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:25:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:28:20 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/14/2006 08:28:20, Serialize complete at 02/14/2006 08:28:20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0054B68F85257115_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:25:36 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0054B68F85257115_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I'm not much of a Cocoa programmer, but I did a little sniffing, and I hope my naive outsider questions provoke some ideas: - Could you use Cocoa Java classes to do all this inside Java? Maybe even moving part of it to the java side would increase the reliability of some of the tasks that are crashing out. (Saw an example at http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2004/Feb/msg01079.html) - The apple docs mention that you just start up a thread and it will have a new nsrunloop. What is the limitation that is preventing you from doing that? Maybe if you started the thread on the java side and then launched into JNI it would solve some of your problems. (See http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/ObjC_classic/Classes/NSRunLoop.html) You may also have some luck starting from the opposite direction; getting things working in a standalone cocoa app, then either moving straight to Eclipse or moving to a standalone java app. I've had a lot of success going this route; it helps eliminate some of the problem variables and and reduces the pain of a crash. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Shaun Guth" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/14/2006 03:30 AM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages > Good to see you are participating. Are you making progress on the Mac > library? Hi guys, I think I sent my last email to Mike only, so I thought I'd update the list with my progress report from 2/6 on the Skype dialer library for Mac OSX: I spent a weekend hacking away at the SkDialer JNI library. I ran into some problems with the Skype API. The good news: I managed to get my libSkDialer.jnilib loaded by your Eclipse plugin, executing my obj-c code, setting the callbacks correctly and communicating with them, etc. So far so good! The bad news (20h): The Cocoa API for Skype relies on me having a running CFRunLoop, which I can't run in a separate thread due to limitations of OSX (It will run a little bit, but then crash and die horribly). I presume that Eclipse on Mac OSX would be running a CFRunLoop itself, but if it is, I don't know how to connect to it. I tried getting an instance of the current loop using: NSRunLoop * loop = [NSRunLoop currentRunLoop]; then adding an NSTimer to it, but the timer never fires. If I add an: [[NSApplication sharedApplication] run] Things work, the timers fire, and the application crashes and burns the JVM. I might be able to use an ugly hack of spawning a separate process (using NSTask) and communicate with it via local pipes (icky) -- but I'd rather not go this route. I sent a note about this to the skype developer forums and I've got the primary developer on my buddy list in the hopes of catching him online, but so far I haven't got any good responses. If anyone knows how I can get at the runloop Eclipse is using, that'd be great! -- Shaun _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 0054B68F85257115_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I'm not much of a Cocoa programmer, but I did a little sniffing, and I hope my naive outsider questions provoke some ideas:

- Could you use Cocoa Java classes to do all this inside Java? Maybe even moving part of it to the java side would increase the reliability of some of the tasks that are crashing out.
 (Saw an example at http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2004/Feb/msg01079.html)

- The apple docs mention that you just start up a thread and it will have a new nsrunloop. What is the limitation that is preventing you from doing that? Maybe if you started the thread on the java side and then launched into JNI it would solve some of your problems.
  (See http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/ObjC_classic/Classes/NSRunLoop.html)

You may also have some luck starting from the opposite direction; getting things working in a standalone cocoa app, then either moving straight to Eclipse or moving to a standalone java app. I've had a lot of success going this route; it helps eliminate some of the problem variables and and reduces the pain of a crash.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



"Shaun Guth" <VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
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> Good to see you are participating. Are you making progress on the Mac
> library?

Hi guys,

I think I sent my last email to Mike only, so I thought I'd update the
list with my progress report from 2/6 on the Skype dialer library for
Mac OSX:

I spent a weekend hacking away at the SkDialer JNI library.  I ran
into some problems with the Skype API.

The good news:

I managed to get my libSkDialer.jnilib loaded by your Eclipse plugin,
executing my obj-c code, setting the callbacks correctly and
communicating with them, etc.  So far so good!


The bad news (20h):

The Cocoa API for Skype relies on me having a running CFRunLoop, which I
can't run in a separate thread due to limitations of OSX (It will run a
little bit, but then crash and die horribly).  I presume that Eclipse on
Mac OSX would be running a CFRunLoop itself, but if it is, I don't know
how to connect to it. I tried getting an instance of the current loop
using:

NSRunLoop * loop = [NSRunLoop currentRunLoop];

then adding an NSTimer to it, but the timer never fires.  If I add an:

[[NSApplication sharedApplication] run]

Things work, the timers fire, and the application crashes and burns the
JVM.


I might be able to use an ugly hack of spawning a separate process
(using NSTask) and communicate with it via local pipes (icky) -- but I'd
rather not go this route.  I sent a note about this to the skype
developer forums and I've got the primary developer on my buddy list in
the hopes of catching him online, but so far I haven't got any good
responses.

If anyone knows how I can get at the runloop Eclipse is using, that'd be
great!

-- Shaun
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--=_alternative 0054B68F85257115_=-- From VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Tue Feb 14 13:42:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05EF1167C6 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E37350B for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C573507 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:42:38 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:42:37 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] FW: vtp-dev messages Thread-Index: AcYxevheRnDHT5PYTNmhI85Wpb+L0QAGW40w From: "Shaun Guth" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:42:47 -0000 > - Could you use Cocoa Java classes to do all this inside Java? Maybe even > moving part of it to the java side would increase the reliability of some of > the tasks that are crashing out. > (Saw an example at http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2004/Feb/msg01079.html) Even in this example, they're magically getting the main run loop in order to attach a timer to it. I don't think the JNI bridge is causing any of the trouble, as I've ensured that all those callbacks are working the way they're intended. > - The apple docs mention that you just start up a thread and it will have a > new nsrunloop. What is the limitation that is preventing you from doing > that? Maybe if you started the thread on the java side and then launched > into JNI it would solve some of your problems. > (See > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/ObjC _cla > ssic/Classes/NSRunLoop.html) Hm, I might be able to do something with this... My inexperience with multi-threaded Cocoa applications is standing in the way here. From what I understood (talking to the #mac-dev guys on freenode), the Cocoa event/GUI framework responds very poorly to being run outside of its main thread, but I didn't verify. I imagine that if I can get a run loop in a separate thread, I can fire a timer and process the Skype message events myself (and bypass the primary Cocoa event handler), possibly avoiding the crashing. > You may also have some luck starting from the opposite direction; getting > things working in a standalone cocoa app, then either moving straight to > Eclipse or moving to a standalone java app. I've had a lot of success going > this route; it helps eliminate some of the problem variables and and reduces > the pain of a crash. Yep, this is exactly the route I took. I got the standalone application working great, and I got the JNI library working great on its own and loaded by the Eclipse plugin. Mixing the two ended up being the problem, as is usually the case! Thanks for the feedback, -- Shaun From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Feb 14 16:31:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F14531866E for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1ELVAv7031955 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:31:10 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1ELXg0e164680 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:33:42 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1ELVAox032254 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:31:10 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1ELVAWV032246 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:31:10 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF85 November 04, 2005 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:34:04 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/14/2006 14:34:04, Serialize complete at 02/14/2006 14:34:04 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0076397885257115_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] VTP candidate build is available X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:31:11 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0076397885257115_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, Perhaps your valentine would prefer a VoiceXML application over flowers? Maybe not, but in keeping with our milestone plan I'd like to let everyone know that a stable candidate build is available: http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/downloads.php This build should now be tested for defects; please do your best to help. If it becomes necessary to fix any stop-ship defects we will build a new candidate. Note that no other changes to the codebase should be happening during this time. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0076397885257115_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

Perhaps your valentine would prefer a VoiceXML application over flowers? Maybe not, but in keeping with our milestone plan I'd like to let everyone know that a stable candidate build is available:

http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/downloads.php

This build should now be tested for defects; please do your best to help. If it becomes necessary to fix any stop-ship defects we will build a new candidate. Note that no other changes to the codebase should be happening during this time.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0076397885257115_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Feb 14 17:10:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F29F167F7 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EMAO1w016718 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:10:24 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1EMCu0e180550 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:12:56 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1EMANZu002822 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:10:24 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EMANFm002814 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:10:23 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF85 November 04, 2005 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:13:17 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/14/2006 15:13:18, Serialize complete at 02/14/2006 15:13:18 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0079D0BD85257115_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Future activity requirements X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:10:33 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0079D0BD85257115_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I'd like to start a discussion about the voice tools project's future requirements. What challenges should the project solve next? There are two timeframes that I see for the project's efforts: - Short-term around the Callisto/WTP1.5 release train in Summer 2006 - Longer-term focus on either a late 2006 deliverable or attempt to align with the next major release of WTP (Summer 2007?) Whether we focus on one or both, I would appreciate feedback on areas the project needs to improve to deliver a better user experience and do a better job of solving problems and providing APIs for commercial voice tools. Let me start out by pointing out two areas where I see work being necessary: - APIs for communicating with speech services such as a recognizer or synthesizer engine - SRGS ABNF Editing -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 0079D0BD85257115_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I'd like to start a discussion about the voice tools project's future requirements. What challenges should the project solve next? There are two timeframes that I see for the project's efforts:

- Short-term around the Callisto/WTP1.5 release train in Summer 2006
- Longer-term focus on either a late 2006 deliverable or attempt to align with the next major release of WTP (Summer 2007?)

Whether we focus on one or both, I would appreciate feedback on areas the project needs to improve to deliver a better user experience and do a better job of solving  problems and providing APIs for commercial voice tools. Let me start out by pointing out two areas where I see work being necessary:

- APIs for communicating with speech services such as a recognizer or synthesizer engine
- SRGS ABNF Editing

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 0079D0BD85257115_=-- From VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Wed Feb 15 18:15:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AC8316852 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2D53508 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B591A3507 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:15:35 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:15:35 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: new Skype target for Tellme Browser Thread-Index: AcYug9AaULjIGxbcTAKKwsLmQm1U5gEAKpUgAABMCwA= From: "Shaun Guth" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] FW: new Skype target for Tellme Browser X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:15:43 -0000 FYI, -----Original Message----- From: Eric Karasuda=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:08 PM To: Shaun Guth Subject: FW: new Skype target for Tellme Browser Shaun,=20 I sent this msg to vtp-dev on 2/10 and it's still waiting moderator approval. Could you pass this change along? Thanks, Eric =20 ________________________________ From: Eric Karasuda=20 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:52 PM To: 'UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg' Subject: new Skype target for Tellme Browser Tellme has changed the preferred Skype ID by which users reach Tellme Studio over Skype. Instead of calling tellme-studio, users should call +99008358965. I'd appreciate it if someone would update org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme/prefer ences.ini to reflect this change. =20 I believe=20 org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.studio_phone=3Dtellme-studio should become org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.studio_phone=3D+99008358965 =20 I'd normally ask Mike Greenawalt to make this change, but he's on vacation at the moment. =20 Thanks, Eric Karasuda Tellme Networks, Inc. From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Feb 15 19:12:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD5AD16852 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1G0CIA4011935 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:12:18 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1G0A3im192028 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:10:03 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1G0CIRV020844 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:12:18 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1G0CIQY020841 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:12:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] FW: new Skype target for Tellme Browser MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:15:12 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/15/2006 17:15:13, Serialize complete at 02/15/2006 17:15:13 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00011CC305257117_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:12:31 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00011CC305257117_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I've opened a bugzilla to discuss the issue: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=128121 Hopefully Eric won't have any problems communicating there. As we are only addressing major defects at this point I'd like to know more about the change. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Shaun Guth" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/15/2006 06:15 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject [vtp-dev] FW: new Skype target for Tellme Browser FYI, -----Original Message----- From: Eric Karasuda Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:08 PM To: Shaun Guth Subject: FW: new Skype target for Tellme Browser Shaun, I sent this msg to vtp-dev on 2/10 and it's still waiting moderator approval. Could you pass this change along? Thanks, Eric ________________________________ From: Eric Karasuda Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:52 PM To: 'UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg' Subject: new Skype target for Tellme Browser Tellme has changed the preferred Skype ID by which users reach Tellme Studio over Skype. Instead of calling tellme-studio, users should call +99008358965. I'd appreciate it if someone would update org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme/prefer ences.ini to reflect this change. I believe org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.studio_phone=tellme-studio should become org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.studio_phone=+99008358965 I'd normally ask Mike Greenawalt to make this change, but he's on vacation at the moment. Thanks, Eric Karasuda Tellme Networks, Inc. _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 00011CC305257117_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I've opened a bugzilla to discuss the issue:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=128121

Hopefully Eric won't have any problems communicating there. As we are only addressing major defects at this point I'd like to know more about the change.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



"Shaun Guth" <VN7WlUikvrPZS1Qu@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

02/15/2006 06:15 PM
Please respond to
Voice Tools general developers <UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg>

To
"Voice Tools general developers" <UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg>
cc
Subject
[vtp-dev] FW: new Skype target for Tellme Browser





FYI,

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Karasuda
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:08 PM
To: Shaun Guth
Subject: FW: new Skype target for Tellme Browser

Shaun,

I sent this msg to vtp-dev on 2/10 and it's still waiting moderator
approval.  Could you pass this change along?

Thanks,

Eric


________________________________

From: Eric Karasuda
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:52 PM
To: 'UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg'
Subject: new Skype target for Tellme Browser


Tellme has changed the preferred Skype ID by which users reach Tellme
Studio over Skype.  Instead of calling tellme-studio, users should call
+99008358965.  I'd appreciate it if someone would update
org.eclipse.vtp/simdebug/plugins/org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme/prefer
ences.ini to reflect this change.



I believe

org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.studio_phone=tellme-studio

should become

org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.studio_phone=+99008358965



I'd normally ask Mike Greenawalt to make this change, but he's on
vacation at the moment.



Thanks,

Eric Karasuda

Tellme Networks, Inc.

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--=_alternative 00011CC305257117_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Thu Feb 16 16:57:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79AD41887D for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1GLvQ76030171 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:57:26 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1GLt9Cq219356 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:55:09 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1GLvP8s031251 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:57:25 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1GLvPup031248 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:57:25 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:00:19 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/16/2006 15:00:20, Serialize complete at 02/16/2006 15:00:20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00789AE585257117_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] New Candidate X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:57:38 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00789AE585257117_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, In order to resolve the configuration issue under bug 128121 there is now a new candidate: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/vtp/vtp-20060216-candidate.zip Testing should be performed on this build. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 00789AE585257117_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

In order to resolve the configuration issue under bug 128121 there is now a new candidate:

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/vtp/vtp-20060216-candidate.zip

Testing should be performed on this build.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 00789AE585257117_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Feb 21 18:54:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E714621EE06 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1LNspD9004275 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:54:51 -0500 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (d03av04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.170]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id k1LNqRJV240582 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:52:27 -0700 Received: from d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1LNsonV013361 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:54:51 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1LNsoBY013355 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:54:50 -0700 To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:57:45 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/21/2006 16:57:47, Serialize complete at 02/21/2006 16:57:47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 008358F68525711C_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Build status X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:54:57 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 008358F68525711C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, Just to let everyone know the Technology PMC review of the VTP is still pending, so we are holding at a candidate build. In the meantime work continues through articles and gathering requirements for future work. A poster on the newsgroup asked for help implementing the browser API so I've posted some simple examples if you'd like to see how to get started. I hope to enhance them to go along with an article on integrating your browser soon. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay --=_alternative 008358F68525711C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

Just to let everyone know the Technology PMC review of the VTP is still pending, so we are holding at a candidate build. In the meantime work continues through articles and gathering requirements for future work. A poster on the newsgroup asked for help implementing the browser API so I've posted some simple examples if you'd like to see how to get started. I hope to enhance them to go along with an article on integrating your browser soon.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
--=_alternative 008358F68525711C_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Mon Feb 27 18:58:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1034221CBE for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BA63510 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CBB3507 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:58:22 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C63BF9.B0D6300B" Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:58:21 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: The VTP project home page is giving 404!! Thread-Index: AcY7+bBg/3hSHAFVRcGHKnYi5scvvw== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!! X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:58:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63BF9.B0D6300B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable www.eclipse.org/vtp results in 404 error. =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63BF9.B0D6300B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

www.eclipse.org/vtp results in 404 error.

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C63BF9.B0D6300B-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Mon Feb 27 19:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BADD21CBE for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E240940 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87300927 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:12:32 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C63BFB.AB76C953" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!! Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:12:31 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!! Thread-Index: AcY7+bBg/3hSHAFVRcGHKnYi5scvvwAAe07Q From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:12:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63BFB.AB76C953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems OK now. Did I catch it at an automated update time? =20 ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Michael Greenawalt Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 3:58 PM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: [vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!! =20 www.eclipse.org/vtp results in 404 error. =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63BFB.AB76C953 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Seems OK now. Did I catch it at an automated update time?

 


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] = On Behalf Of Michael = Greenawalt
Sent: Monday, February = 27, 2006 3:58 PM
To: Voice Tools general = developers
Subject: [vtp-dev] The = VTP project home page is giving 404!!

 

www.eclipse.org/vtp results in 404 error.

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C63BFB.AB76C953-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Feb 28 09:55:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73269273AF for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1SEtGp6028428 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:55:16 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k1SEqiUZ248702 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:52:44 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1SEtFls026127 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:55:15 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1SEtFYt026003 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:55:15 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:58:07 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/28/2006 07:58:13, Serialize complete at 02/28/2006 07:58:13 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0051CE4585257123_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:55:20 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0051CE4585257123_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Must be; I wasn't changing anything. I let the webmaster know just in case something's up. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 02/27/2006 07:12 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!! Seems OK now. Did I catch it at an automated update time? From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Michael Greenawalt Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 3:58 PM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: [vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!! www.eclipse.org/vtp results in 404 error. _______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 0051CE4585257123_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Must be; I wasn't changing anything. I let the webmaster know just in case something's up.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay



"Michael Greenawalt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
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02/27/2006 07:12 PM
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Seems OK now. Did I catch it at an automated update time?
 



From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Michael Greenawalt
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[vtp-dev] The VTP project home page is giving 404!!

 
www.eclipse.org/vtp results in 404 error.
 
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--=_alternative 0051CE4585257123_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Tue Feb 28 10:20:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com (e31.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.149]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 432F727110 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1SFKcGc008792 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:20:38 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k1SFI6UZ261376 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:18:06 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1SFKcFH007863 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:20:38 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1SFKcO8007856 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:20:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "Michael Greenawalt" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:23:34 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 02/28/2006 08:23:36, Serialize complete at 02/28/2006 08:23:36 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0054482E85257123_=" Cc: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: [vtp-dev] RE: I have returned from vacation X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:20:42 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0054482E85257123_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good. I am at home today but we can go over what's changed. You've=20 summarized it pretty well, but here are a few comments on the changes: - The externalization of strings I did was a quick job and needs to be=20 eventually cleaned up as the project grows; this goes for the entire VTP=20 codebase. "Error " + name + " detected" type code should really be=20 MessageFormat.format("Error {0} detected"). - I changed the 'call completed' dialog to be a log event so you could=20 automatically drive the browser if need be. It's not perfect; other cases=20 pop dialogs up. But I wanted something that would work well for simple=20 cases and would be minimally invasive to the codebase. - Trim the log to remove events related to redirecting from the=20 scratchpad. You might remember I tried this out. I kept using it locally=20 and it was working very well so I put it in. Along with this I added some=20 simple eventing. Like the dialog issue my hope is that these will enable=20 examples to be built that take advantage of the infrastructure. - There ended up being two getting started guides; the one you put=20 together in .tellme.doc and the one I put together for the web site. I=20 think they both need to be merged together eventually, but there was no=20 time to sort that out and so I cleaned up the opening paragraphs of mine=20 and put it under Getting Started in the online help. If I recall yours was = more in depth in the prerequisites and mine was more in depth inside=20 Eclipse. Yours is still there but I commented out the table of contents. - One thing you missed that I was proud to get in: moving the text in the=20 launch configuration dialog to links so you can click on them. It had been = in the back of my mind for months. We'll have to see how this works on=20 other platforms. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" =20 02/27/2006 08:02 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject RE: I have returned from vacation Brent ? =20 I have taken a look at the comparisons of the current source of the tellme = plugin with what I have. Looks like you have been busy! I see a lot of=20 extractions of strings, and I notice you changed the dialog at call=20 completion as well as trimming down the log content. I would like you to=20 go over what you changed, as some may conflict with the ?to do? list I=20 left behind to resume work on.=20 =20 Also, I cannot find the documentation material that I put together at the=20 very last. What is up with that? The release candidate is missing the info = on setting up Skype, etc. =20 =20 =20 --=_alternative 0054482E85257123_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds good. I am at home today but we can go over what's changed. You've summarized it pretty well, but here are a few comments on the changes:

- The externalization of strings I d= id was a quick job and needs to be eventually cleaned up as the project grows; this goes for the entire VTP codebase. "Error " + name + " detected" type code should really be MessageFormat.format("Error {0} detected").

- I changed the 'call completed' dia= log to be a log event so you could automatically drive the browser if need be. It's not perfect; other cases pop dialogs up. But I wanted something that would work well for simple cases and would be minimally invasive to the codebase.

- Trim the log to remove events rela= ted to redirecting from the scratchpad. You might remember I tried this out. I kept using it locally and it was working very well so I put it in. Along with this I added some simple eventing. Like the dialog issue my hope is that these will enable examples to be built that take advantage of the infrastructure.

- There ended up being two getting s= tarted guides; the one you put together in .tellme.doc and the one I put together for the web site. I think they both need to be merged together eventually, but there was no time to sort that out and so I cleaned up the opening paragraphs of mine and put it under Getting Started in the online help. If I recall yours was more in depth in the prerequisites and mine was more in depth inside Eclipse. Yours is still there but I commented out the table of contents.

- One thing you missed that I was pr= oud to get in: moving the text in the launch configuration dialog to links so you can click on them. It had been in the back of my mind for months. We'll have to see how this works on other platforms.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay



"Michael Greenaw= alt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>

02/27/2006 08:02 PM

To
Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS
cc
Subject
RE: I have returned from vacation





Brent –
 
I have taken a look at the comparisons of the current source of the tellme plugin with what I have. Looks like you have been busy! I see a lot of extractions of strings, and I notice you changed the dialog at call completion as well as trimming down the log content. I would like you to go over what you changed, as some may conflict with the “to do” list I left behind to resume= work on.
 
Also, I cannot find the d= ocumentation material that I put together at the very last. What is up with that? The release candidate is missing the info on setting up Skype, etc.
 
 
 


--=_alternative 0054482E85257123_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Mar 1 10:29:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.151]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C56FF27516 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k21FSY80027546 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:28:34 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k21FVJ56178300 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:31:19 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k21FSYm3001007 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:28:34 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k21FSYHI000990 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:28:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:31:31 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0HF124 | January 12, 2006) at 03/01/2006 08:31:32, Serialize complete at 03/01/2006 08:31:32 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00549A2385257124_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Re: validation X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:29:01 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00549A2385257124_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought there was a bugzilla behind it, but I can't find it. Since I=20 couldn't reproduce the bug myself I took a bit of a scorched earth policy=20 in the existing validation code and started speculating what could be the=20 issue. I've seen spaces in passwords being trimmed before so that stood=20 out as a possibility. The fix ended up working well by all accounts. From=20 the followup I understand the actual tellme password length requirements=20 weren't what was documented. I personally feel we should leave the user to = put the wrong thing in those fields and keep the checking to when the=20 login is attempted. There was a separate issue with switching tabs that was quite subtle. It=20 turns out that setting the tab up when you switched back to it was=20 throwing modify events on each input field, causing the stored correct=20 values on the other input fields to be overridden with incorrect values.=20 We never saw this on simpler examples because it works fine with one input = field, which is what my test case had. I placed a guard variable around=20 the modifylistener to solve the problem. The bug is at=20 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show=5Fbug.cgi?id=3D127601 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" =20 02/28/2006 09:47 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject validation Brent ? =20 I was catching up on the newsgroup today. I saw the threads on the Run=20 button not being enabled. You changed the validation rules. Did you file=20 bugs to match the changes?=20 =20 I feel somewhat ambivalent about that change. If we know the rules, it=20 seems appropriate to do the check. On the other hand, if it is wrong, it=20 will get caught elsewhere. Studio is not a precious resource that will be=20 damaged by having bad logins sent to it.=20 =20 You made a comment in the code that the password may have spaces on=20 purpose ? but the Studio developers tell me that spaces are not allowed in = the password. So, I am puzzled at the comment. =20 What was the issue about switching back and forth between the tabs? You=20 said you fixed it. =20 -- Mike --=_alternative 00549A2385257124_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought there was a bugzilla behind it, but I can't find it. Since I couldn't reproduce the bug myself I took a bit of a scorched earth policy in the existing validation code and started speculating what could be the issue. I've seen spaces in passwords being trimmed before so that stood out as a possibility. The fix ended up working well by all accounts. From the followup I understand the actual tellme password length requirements weren't what was documented. I personally feel we should leave the user to put the wrong thing in those fields and keep the checking to when the login is attempted.

There was a separate issue with swit= ching tabs that was quite subtle. It turns out that setting the tab up when you switched back to it was throwing modify events on each input field, causing the stored correct values on the other input fields to be overridden with incorrect values. We never saw this on simpler examples because it works fine with one input field, which is what my test case had. I placed a guard variable around the modifylistener to solve the problem. The bug is at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show=5Fbug.cgi?id=3D127601

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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay



"Michael Greenaw= alt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>

02/28/2006 09:47 PM

To
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cc
Subject
validation





Brent –
 
I was catching up on the newsgroup today. I saw the threads on the Run button not being enabled. You changed the validation rules. Did you file bugs to match the changes?
 
I feel somewhat ambivalent about that cha= nge. If we know the rules, it seems appropriate to do the check. On the other hand, if it is wrong, it will get caught elsewhere. Studio is not a precious resource that will be damaged by having bad logins sent to it.
 
You made a comment in the code that the p= assword may have spaces on purpose – but the Studio developers tell me that s= paces are not allowed in the password. So, I am puzzled at the comment.
 
What was the issue about switching back a= nd forth between the tabs? You said you fixed it.
 
-- Mike
--=_alternative 00549A2385257124_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Wed Mar 8 15:04:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E348240EFA for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEE03510 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1F53507 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:04:03 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C642EB.72C65012" Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:04:03 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What is the status of getting VTP reviewed for release? Thread-Index: AcZC63KFKOKVFGA5TaGQOWTHui+jbw== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] What is the status of getting VTP reviewed for release? X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:04:08 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C642EB.72C65012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wondering what is happening. =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_001_01C642EB.72C65012 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wondering what is = happening.

 

-- Mike

------_=_NextPart_001_01C642EB.72C65012-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Wed Mar 8 15:10:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.150]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7654E240F00 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k28KA5Qp026487 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:10:05 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k28K7MAE262024 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:07:22 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k28KA4f9017457 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:10:04 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k28KA420017450 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:10:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:13:03 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.1HF18 | February 28, 2006) at 03/08/2006 13:13:05, Serialize complete at 03/08/2006 13:13:05 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006EC3348525712B_=" Subject: [vtp-dev] Re: status X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:10:07 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006EC3348525712B_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I've requested a review from the PMC but no reply yet. I saw that the latest round of announced reviews says it is the 'pre-eclipsecon' review set so I can only assume that we will have to wait until after March 20-23. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 03/08/2006 03:04 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject [vtp-dev] What is the status of getting VTP reviewed for release? Wondering what is happening. -- Mike_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 006EC3348525712B_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I've requested a review from the PMC but no reply yet. I saw that the latest round of announced reviews says it is the 'pre-eclipsecon' review set so I can only assume that we will have to wait until after March 20-23.

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Wondering what is happening.
 
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--=_alternative 006EC3348525712B_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Thu Mar 9 21:37:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 263AC13E09 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7446350A for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:37:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B170E3507 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:37:44 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C643EB.A009669E" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:37:30 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Help files for VTP release candidate Thread-Index: AcZD65PqkzFMQxMAQsOisJ9EEfPnOA== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] Help files for VTP release candidate X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:37:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C643EB.A009669E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The help files for VTP do not match the plug-in contents in CVS. I had prepared some help files for the Tellme browser just before I went on vacation. I think Brent thought that what I submitted did not mesh well with what he had done, so at the last minute he suppressed the information until it could be resolved later. =20 I have done some reconciliation of Brent's documentation in org.eclipse.vtp.doc and my docs in org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.doc. I did not make any changes in org.eclipse.vtp.doc. Some of the material is repeated, but maybe with a usefully different slant.=20 =20 There are new versions of the docs in CVS, and I would be happy to receive feedback. Look in the Getting Started and the Tasks areas. =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_001_01C643EB.A009669E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The help files for VTP do not match the plug-in = contents in CVS. I had prepared some help files for the Tellme browser just before I = went on vacation. I think Brent thought that what I submitted did not mesh = well with what he had done, so at the last minute he suppressed the information = until it could be resolved later.

 

I have done some reconciliation of Brent’s documentation in org.eclipse.vtp.doc and my docs in org.eclipse.vtp.launching.tellme.doc. I did not make any changes in org.eclipse.vtp.doc. Some of the material is repeated, but maybe with a usefully different slant.

 

There are new versions of the docs in CVS, and I = would be happy to receive feedback. Look in the Getting Started and the Tasks = areas.

 

-- Mike

------_=_NextPart_001_01C643EB.A009669E-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Thu Mar 9 21:41:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E824240D9E for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03204350A for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40973507 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:41:32 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C643EC.2829C0AC" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:41:18 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New versions Thread-Index: AcZD7BwZkAH3fjGsRNqWrct7AveSwA== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] New versions X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:41:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C643EC.2829C0AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the release candidate was done.=20 =20 It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate. One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP - don't know why I did not think of that sooner. =20 Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the plug-ins, 1.0.1.=20 =20 -- Mike ------_=_NextPart_001_01C643EC.2829C0AC Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the release candidate was done. =

 

It would be great to have those changes incorporated = into the candidate. One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to = Studio so I can track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP – = don’t know why I did not think of that sooner.

 

Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new = version for the plug-ins, 1.0.1.

 

-- Mike

------_=_NextPart_001_01C643EC.2829C0AC-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Mar 10 10:33:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (e35.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.153]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DB3122219 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2AFXFpW021795 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:33:15 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k2AFa5QP183330 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:36:05 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2AFXD3u031264 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:33:13 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2AFXDpP031239 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:33:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] New versions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:36:13 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.1HF18 | February 28, 2006) at 03/10/2006 08:36:14, Serialize complete at 03/10/2006 08:36:14 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005513418525712D_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:33:16 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005513418525712D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to get more feedback from=20 those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. I can think of a few=20 things that could be done ahead of new major features: - Defect resolution (not many on the books) - Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So far there hasn't been many problems) Mike, have you noticed any issues with 1.0.1? I haven't. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 03/09/2006 09:41 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject [vtp-dev] New versions I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the=20 release candidate was done.=20 =20 It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate.=20 One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can=20 track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP ? don?t know why I=20 did not think of that sooner. =20 Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the=20 plug-ins, 1.0.1.=20 =20 -- Mike=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 005513418525712D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to get more feedback from those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. I can think of a few things that could be done ahead of new major features:

- Defect resolution (not many on the books)
- Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So f= ar there hasn't been many problems)

Mike, have you noticed any issues wi= th 1.0.1? I haven't.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay



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I have made a couple of changes to the Te= llme browser plug-in since the release candidate was done.
 
It would be great to have those changes i= ncorporated into the candidate. One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP – don’t know why I did not think of that sooner.
 
Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the plug-ins, 1.0.1.
 
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--=_alternative 005513418525712D_=-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Fri Mar 10 13:33:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (mail01.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.98]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6772A22224 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA00E942 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail01.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FF8938 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:33:45 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C64471.1B73D7C3" Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New versions Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:33:43 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [vtp-dev] New versions Thread-Index: AcZEV+uXZ37MUPJgSq+8bMRuunMilAAGSC5A From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:33:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C64471.1B73D7C3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I have seen no issues with WTP 1.0.1. But I really don't exercise much of it.=20 =20 -- Mike =20 ________________________________ From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:36 AM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] New versions =20 Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to get more feedback from those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. I can think of a few things that could be done ahead of new major features:=20 - Defect resolution (not many on the books)=20 - Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So far there hasn't been many problems)=20 Mike, have you noticed any issues with 1.0.1? I haven't.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay=20 "Michael Greenawalt" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 03/09/2006 09:41 PM=20 Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" =20 cc =20 Subject [vtp-dev] New versions =20 =20 =20 I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the release candidate was done.=20 =20 It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate. One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP - don't know why I did not think of that sooner.=20 =20 Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the plug-ins, 1.0.1.=20 =20 -- Mike_______________________________________________ vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev ------_=_NextPart_001_01C64471.1B73D7C3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I have seen no issues with WTP = 1.0.1. But I really don’t exercise much of it. =

 

-- = Mike

 


From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] = On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent: Friday, March 10, = 2006 7:36 AM
To: Voice Tools general developers
Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] = New versions

 


Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to = get more feedback from those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. = I can think of a few things that could be done ahead of new major = features:

- Defect resolution (not many on the books)
- Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So far there hasn't been many = problems)

Mike, have you noticed any issues with 1.0.1? I haven't.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be = possible." - Alan Kay


"Michael = Greenawalt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

03/09/2006 09:41 PM

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[vtp-dev] New = versions

 

 

 




I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in = since the release candidate was done.
 
It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate. = One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can track how = much Studio activity we are getting from VTP – don’t know why I = did not think of that sooner.
 
Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the plug-ins, = 1.0.1.
 
-- Mike_______________________________________________
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C64471.1B73D7C3-- From NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot Fri Mar 10 14:42:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (mail02.corp.tellme.com [209.157.157.101]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07660240F6C for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail02.corp.tellme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B69F3512 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch.sea.tellme.com (ex-mv-01.sea.tellme.com [172.20.5.21]) by mail02.corp.tellme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B1B3507 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:42:54 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6447A.C3A27342" Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:42:52 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: TellmeSkype! Thread-Index: AcZEetIREkC7Ef06RJazhM5Fr5wn6g== From: "Michael Greenawalt" To: "Voice Tools general developers" Subject: [vtp-dev] TellmeSkype! X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:42:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6447A.C3A27342 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's something interesting! This site is associated with neither Tellme nor Skype! I am going to feed him some more information about Eclipse VTP. -- Mike http://www.tellmeskype.com/=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6447A.C3A27342 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here’s something interesting!

This site is associated with neither Tellme nor Skype!  I am going to = feed him some more information about Eclipse VTP.

-- Mike

http://www.tellmeskype.com/

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6447A.C3A27342-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Mar 10 15:00:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e36.co.us.ibm.com (e36.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.154]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B042240F6C for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e36.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2AK0XWZ023640 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:00:33 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k2AJvmva203584 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:57:48 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2AK0XTB030916 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:00:33 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2AK0Xqi030904 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:00:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New versions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:03:33 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.1HF18 | February 28, 2006) at 03/10/2006 13:03:34, Serialize complete at 03/10/2006 13:03:34 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006DCE4D8525712D_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:00:34 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006DCE4D8525712D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll change the dailies to build and pre-req 1.0.1 to get started. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Michael Greenawalt" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 03/10/2006 01:33 PM Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New versions No, I have seen no issues with WTP 1.0.1. But I really don?t exercise much = of it.=20 =20 -- Mike =20 From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On=20 Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:36 AM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] New versions =20 Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to get more feedback from=20 those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. I can think of a few=20 things that could be done ahead of new major features:=20 - Defect resolution (not many on the books)=20 - Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So far there hasn't been many problems)=20 Mike, have you noticed any issues with 1.0.1? I haven't.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay=20 "Michael Greenawalt" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 03/09/2006 09:41 PM=20 Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" =20 cc =20 Subject [vtp-dev] New versions =20 =20 =20 I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the=20 release candidate was done.=20 =20 It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate.=20 One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can=20 track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP ? don?t know why I=20 did not think of that sooner.=20 =20 Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the=20 plug-ins, 1.0.1.=20 =20 -- Mike=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 006DCE4D8525712D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'll change the dailies to build and pre-req 1.0.1 to get started.

--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay



"Michael Greenaw= alt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=

03/10/2006 01:33 PM
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cc
Subject
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No, I have seen no issues= with WTP 1.0.1. But I really don’t exercise much of it.
 
-- Mike
 



From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Brent D Metz
Sent:
Friday, March 10, 2006 7:36 AM
To:
Voice Tools general developers
Subject:
Re: [vtp-dev] New versions

 

Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to get more feedback from those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. I can think of a few things that could be done ahead of new major features:


- Defect resolution (not many on the books)

- Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So far there hasn't been many problems)

Mike, have you noticed any issues with 1.0.1? I haven't.


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible= ." - Alan Kay

"Michael Greenaw= alt" <NM5nlkdxj58019bM@ciUWEGm0UNePzwot>
Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

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I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the release candidate was done.
 
It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate. One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP – don’t = know why I did not think of that sooner.

 
Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the plug-ins, 1.0.1.
 
-- Mike
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--=_alternative 006DCE4D8525712D_=-- From kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ Fri Mar 10 15:27:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Delivered-To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) by mail.eclipse.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87A57EDB1 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2AKRAMK025751 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:27:10 -0500 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k2AKU2QP191194 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:30:02 -0700 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2AKR97H027842 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:27:09 -0700 Received: from d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm113.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.139]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2AKR9ol027838 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:27:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New versions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 From: Brent D Metz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:30:09 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM113/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.1HF18 | February 28, 2006) at 03/10/2006 13:30:10, Serialize complete at 03/10/2006 13:30:10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007057538525712D_=" X-BeenThere: UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Voice Tools general developers List-Id: Voice Tools general developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:27:18 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007057538525712D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't personally, but it appears to be the W3C's direction for=20 standardizing call control. From the VTP perspective, it costs us very=20 little resource to support editing CCXML on top of VoiceXML&SRGSXML so it=20 is at worst unused functionality by those who don't need/want it. If=20 someone used the VTP as a base but didn't care for CCXML they could just=20 remove it by taking away the plugins. -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay "Yakulis, Ross \(Ross\)" =20 03/10/2006 03:09 PM To Brent D Metz/Boca Raton/IBM@IBMUS cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New versions Have you ever seen any "real world" ccxml applications. Everything I see on the net are just "toy" ccxml applications. =20 Ross Yakulis (Avaya). =20 -----Original Message----- From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg]On=20 Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:04 PM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: RE: [vtp-dev] New versions I'll change the dailies to build and pre-req 1.0.1 to get started.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay=20 "Michael Greenawalt" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 03/10/2006 01:33 PM=20 Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" =20 cc Subject RE: [vtp-dev] New versions No, I have seen no issues with WTP 1.0.1. But I really don?t exercise much = of it.=20 =20 -- Mike=20 =20 From: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg [mailto:mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On=20 Behalf Of Brent D Metz Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:36 AM To: Voice Tools general developers Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] New versions=20 =20 Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to get more feedback from=20 those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. I can think of a few=20 things that could be done ahead of new major features:=20 - Defect resolution (not many on the books)=20 - Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So far there hasn't been many problems)=20 Mike, have you noticed any issues with 1.0.1? I haven't.=20 -- Brent D. Metz Enterprise Voice Tools kErzD3+l+KuMEOmy@NWxUxqmKJBdCO6sQ "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - = Alan Kay=20 "Michael Greenawalt" =20 Sent by: mNXOwyXwUbgmL2O+@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg=20 03/09/2006 09:41 PM=20 Please respond to Voice Tools general developers To "Voice Tools general developers" =20 cc =20 Subject [vtp-dev] New versions =20 =20 =20 I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the=20 release candidate was done.=20 =20 It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate.=20 One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can=20 track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP ? don?t know why I=20 did not think of that sooner.=20 =20 Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the=20 plug-ins, 1.0.1.=20 =20 -- Mike=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F vtp-dev mailing list UF5b+M2hlIlVcYDm@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/vtp-dev --=_alternative 007057538525712D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't personally, but it appears to be the W3C's direction for standardizing call control. From the VTP perspective, it costs us very little resource to support editing CCXML on top of VoiceXML&SRGSXML so it is at worst unused functionality by those who don't need/want it. If someone used the VTP as a base but didn't care for CCXML they could just remove it by taking away the plugins.

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Enterprise Voice Tools
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Have you ever seen any &q= uot;real world" ccxml applications.  Everything
I see on the net are just= "toy" ccxml applications.
 
Ross Yakulis (Avaya).
 
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I'll change the dailies to build and pre-req 1.0.1 to get started.


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Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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No, I have seen no issues with WTP 1.0.1. But I really don’t exercise much of it.
 
-- Mike

 





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Since we're 'off plan' at this point I'd like to get more feedback from those on the list on what would go into a new cycle. I can think of a few things that could be done ahead of new major features:


- Defect resolution (not many on the books)

- Compatibility with WTP 1.0.1 (So far there hasn't been many problems)

Mike, have you noticed any issues with 1.0.1? I haven't.


--
Brent D. Metz
Enterprise Voice Tools
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I have made a couple of changes to the Tellme browser plug-in since the release candidate was done.
=

It would be great to have those changes incorporated into the candidate. One thing I added is a marker on the https requests to Studio so I can track how much Studio activity we are getting from VTP – don’t = know why I did not think of that sooner.


Also, I suppose it is about time to roll to a new version for the plug-ins, 1.0.1.


-- Mike
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Good point. I'm not sure how to do that actually - that menu = is created=20 programmatically from a general project template. Let me see if I can = figure=20 it out..

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> I've posted a guide to getting a development = environment set=20 up here:
>=20 http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/developer-setup/developersetup.php
> =
>=20 It's also on the front page. Let me know what you think.

Great = guide!=20  Can this get linked from the main "Development" menu (or
off = the CVS=20 page perhaps)?  I'm worried that once it falls off the
project = news,=20 prospective developers (and I...) won't be able to find it
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