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Hi,

I'd like to push forward working on the GPW actions.

To John:

Could you please post the issues you are going to work on? Our team 

(from the Buckminster project) can start on the intersections related to

our project, i.e. Director, Engine, Repository, Profile.

To Tim:

Could you please post the schematic picture you drew on the flip chart?

Regards

  Filip

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Tim:

I am all with you.

I am a pragmatist, and when it comes to open source , there is only one

truth: the code.

Equinox has a code base, and Maya will have one soon. (That I am

anxious/excited to checkout ASAP if possible)

I highlighted those. Anyone else that has a code base now, and a plan to

make it grow has my respect.

So I am cool. You are cool. 

(Note that BTW, we have one too @ easyeclipse, as we sponsored an intern

last summer to work on a replacement to the update manager, it was fun

stuff, but I do not think it is worthy pursuing for now).

Yet I am worried when I see a gadzillion of projects intersections: it

smells like design by comittee to me. (bad smell)

Variations one one theme and one code base makes sense, as long as it is

clear that there is one theme and code base.

Because being a pragmatist, the solution that is part of the core SDK

will be the most widely distributed and available.

And it will win. So we better make it good, solid and the point of first

focus, rather than diluting efforts (beyond existing code base like

Maya).

Or else we can end up with yet another partially useful and broken story

that has been the update manager so far.

Wa

As a side note, I am the admin for the Google Summer of Code @ Eclipse,

together with Wayne Beaton.  Among the 21 students that have been

selected to contribute to Eclipse this summer, there are a couple which

are closely related to provisioning.

*Eclipse web interface (with a possible use case to trigger provisioning

from an arbitrary web page in any web browser)

*New Update manager UI (which will focus to bring a face to Equinox

provisioning)

*An auto-configuration plugin for Eclipse (in a more holistic view of

provisioning, to get automated preferences and discovered services

configured)

*Java Executable Wrapper Plugin for Eclipse (vaguely related)

*WebDAV EFS Implementation ( a potential transport)

*Semantic-aware software component provisioning: actually reusing

software ( to define a component ontology)

I invite everyone to check out those abstract and stand by to support

and help those students and their mentors when their work will start in

late May, as they can contribute small code bricks to the larger

edifice. The best way to get plugged in the short term is to join

#eclipse-soc on freenode.

http://code.google.com/soc/eclipse/about.html

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Cheers

Philippe

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philippe ombredanne @ eclipse.org

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Tim Webb (tiwebb) [mailto:jAgQBfbvOUZbWjps@JBqahwZgp0rLYuF/] 

> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:14 AM

> To: PzxQY3dtp+oFL0+H@RgofA6Na+BoXv9wI; Developer discussions for 

> provisioning (Update Manager)initiatives

> Subject: RE: [provisioning-dev] Provisioning going forward

> 

> 

> Philippe,

> 

> Without a doubt everything will ultimately be built on top of the

> Equinox provisioning work as it provides the key enabling technology

> that will provide both consistency and enablement for a variety of

> services.  That said, it is unlikely that Equinox's scope will
(or

> should) grow to cover the full set of use cases that will ultimately

> need to be supported in a the full Eclipse provisioning solution.

> Instead, I would look at Equinox to provide a rich set of capabilities

> for provisioning and then certain projects such as Maya to provide

> additional user interfaces and concrete implementations to 

> meet specific

> user scenarios -- in the case of Maya being targeted for organization

> and enterprise provisioning.

> 

> To pick a particular example, certain consumers of Eclipse require

> central management.  This is an area that will likely 

> continue to reside

> in the Maya project even as the Equinox project evolves.  Similar
to

> Equinox having extensibility, so will the central server 

> component in a

> provisioning system to enable capabilities such as licensing and

> governance.  I personally see the continued need for multiple
projects

> to be successful if we are hoping to have a successful end-to-end

> provisioning story for the 3.4 timeline.  From the workshop,
we

> identified multiple areas of intersection between projects.  

> From those

> intersections we will next be splitting out work to be 

> performed in the

> various provisioning projects.  

> 

> Regarding where to focus attention, I'd suggest focusing it 

> from a given

> interest or need instead of project and then we can work as a 

> community

> to determine which project is the right home for the near term to

> support development of that component.  Once the projects 

> mature out of

> incubator status, we may then decide to restructure project placements

> but only once we've better defined and delivered on the base

> provisioning needs for Eclipse.  At the end of the day, there
are many

> areas of provisioning as was highlighted by discussions at 

> the workshop.

> 

> I absolutely agree that we need to make sure the Equinox provisioning

> work is very successful but I wouldn't want to do that at the 

> expense of

> the other provisioning work needed.  In addition, as we found
at the

> workshop, by talking through projects like Maya, IBM's 

> Install Manager,

> SmartUp and other technologies represented, we were able to further

> mature and identify needs that would be required at the Equinox level.

> Continuing to move the entire provisioning solution forward will help

> ensure we have not only a successful base story to replace 

> what we have

> today but a rich platform that will meet needs of the future.

> 

> Cheers,

> Tim

> 

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> From: fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

> [mailto:fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of Philippe

> Ombredanne

> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:51 AM

> To: bXzS9kgiBpQc+PW7@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

> Subject: [provisioning-dev] Provisioning going forward

> 

> Hi all:

> I could not join the provisioning workshop last week, so I 

> did read all

> the posts I could find and here is how I have reformulated the

> conclusion for me:

> - Equinox is the way to go for provisioning and will be the core

> platform way. Everyone will contribute and/or migrate to that.

> - Maya does address some specific use cases and provides a non

> Equinox-based solution for now, but will also migrate to Equinox

> provisioning in a near future, and have specific use cases 

> for Equinox.

> 

> So we all need to focus and concentrate our energies behind Equinox,

> since it will be lowest common denominator.

> Fair enough?

> 

> -- 

> Cheers

> Philippe

> http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net - 

> http://eclipse.org/atf

> philippe ombredanne | 1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne at nexb.com 

> nexB - Open by Design (tm) - http://www.nexb.com 

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Hi,

I'd like to push forward working on the GPW actions.

To John:

Could you please post the issues you are going to work on? Our team 

(from the Buckminster project) can start on the intersections related
to

our project, i.e. Director, Engine, Repository, Profile.

To Tim:

Could you please post the schematic picture you drew on the flip chart?

Regards

 Filip

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> - In your example, you say that 3M is still large? Why do you think
so, are

> the actual changes smaller? Why don't you ship the delta of each files

> instead of each complete file?

> 

> 3M is still a pretty long download for a modem, but it's not horrible.

> 

> We could ship a delta of the individual classes (binary diff the 

> actual class files too) but we chose not to do that because we 

> decided that 3M was small enough and the extra complexity (and 

> possibility of bugs) was not worth the potential gain for our use-case.

As a point of interest you could still use pack200
on the JAR that contains only the changed/added files.  That would
may well cut the required space in half.
Jeff

Hi Pascal,

I have a general interest in provisioning. We have quite some

(customer and internal) requests for enhancements of installations. 

For example:

- being able to roll out an installation to the desk of many

  developers (probably covered by Maya)

- updating an installation of many developes in a coordinated

  way (Maya)

- pushing preference settings to developers without overriding

  their settings (is centralized preference management covered 

  by any of the provisioning projects?)

- disallow users to update installed feaures using the update 

  managers

- revert a customized installation back to the officially supported

  version(s)

- install non osgi based features

- ...

Michael

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 

> [mailto:fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of 

> Pascal Rapicault

> Sent: Wednesday, 04 July, 2007 16:13

> To: Developer discussions for provisioning (Update Manager) 

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> Manager)initiatives; fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

> Subject: Re: [provisioning-dev] What is the status on the 

> provisioningprojects?

> 

> Hi Michael,

> 

> There is no overall/cross-project plan for the provisioning effort
and

> since each project is independent addressing different part of the

> provisioning space, it seems to me that the only "cross 

> project plan" we

> need to have is something that plan discussion, collaboration and
then

> adoption of the new concepts and metadata being defined in 

> the equinox.

> 

> As you may have already found, the equinox provisioning plan 

> is available

> here (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Provisioning_Plan). For 

> 3.4 and with

> the current involvement, our goals will be to replace update manager.

> 

> Given the context of the summit, the discussion will likely 

> focus on the

> equinox part of the provisioning.

> 

> Which area of the provisioning work are you interested in?

> 

> HTH,

> 

> PaScaL

> 

> 

> 

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on the 

> provisioning          

>                    
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>              

>              Please respond to

>              

>                 "Developer

>              

>               discussions for  

>              

>                provisioning

>              

>                  \(Update

>              

>                  Manager\)

>              

>                initiatives"

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> 

> 

> 

> Hi,

> 

> what's the best way to get an overview of the current status

> and the future plans of the provisioning effort?

> 

> Is there a central place with the information?

> 

> Is there anything better than (and the Provisioning category)?

>    http://wiki.eclipse.org/Provisioning

> 

> Or do I have to come to the Summit in September?

> 

> I also tried this search: http://tinyurl.com/yvt652

> 

> Michael

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Hi Pascal,

I have a general interest in provisioning. We have quite some

(customer and internal) requests for enhancements of installations. 

For example:

- being able to roll out an installation to the desk of many

  developers (probably covered by Maya)

- updating an installation of many developes in a coordinated

  way (Maya)

- pushing preference settings to developers without overriding

  their settings (is centralized preference management covered 

  by any of the provisioning projects?)

- disallow users to update installed feaures using the update 

  managers

- revert a customized installation back to the officially supported

  version(s)

- install non osgi based features

- ...

Michael

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 

> [mailto:fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of 

> Pascal Rapicault

> Sent: Wednesday, 04 July, 2007 16:13

> To: Developer discussions for provisioning (Update Manager) 

> initiatives

> Cc: Developer discussions for provisioning (Update 

> Manager)initiatives; fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg

> Subject: Re: [provisioning-dev] What is the status on the 

> provisioningprojects?

> 

> Hi Michael,

> 

> There is no overall/cross-project plan for the provisioning effort
and

> since each project is independent addressing different part of the

> provisioning space, it seems to me that the only "cross 

> project plan" we

> need to have is something that plan discussion, collaboration and
then

> adoption of the new concepts and metadata being defined in 

> the equinox.

> 

> As you may have already found, the equinox provisioning plan 

> is available

> here (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Provisioning_Plan). For 

> 3.4 and with

> the current involvement, our goals will be to replace update manager.

> 

> Given the context of the summit, the discussion will likely 

> focus on the

> equinox part of the provisioning.

> 

> Which area of the provisioning work are you interested in?

> 

> HTH,

> 

> PaScaL

> 

> 

> 

>                    

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>              "Scharf, Michael"

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> What is the      

>                    
                   status
on the 

> provisioning          

>                    
                   projects?

>              

>              Please respond to

>              

>                 "Developer

>              

>               discussions for  

>              

>                provisioning

>              

>                  \(Update

>              

>                  Manager\)

>              

>                initiatives"

>              

>              <provisioning-dev

>              

>                @eclipse.org>

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>                    

>              

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> 

> 

> 

> 

> Hi,

> 

> what's the best way to get an overview of the current status

> and the future plans of the provisioning effort?

> 

> Is there a central place with the information?

> 

> Is there anything better than (and the Provisioning category)?

>    http://wiki.eclipse.org/Provisioning

> 

> Or do I have to come to the Summit in September?

> 

> I also tried this search: http://tinyurl.com/yvt652

> 

> Michael

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Hi,

The week before last I had some discussions with Pascal about how

Equinox provisioning stuff will interact with Linux distribution

packages.  Since then I've been struggling a bit to get my thought=
s and

our discussions collected so I'd like to discuss them here to get

others' opinions.

One of the ideas we discussed was profile inheritance.  With that,=
 we

would have a system-wide (administrator-managed) profile that is

populated with the entire set of bundles available via installed distro=

packages (RPMs, .debs, whatever).  (I am thinking we'd have to man=
ually

avoid conflicts in what we ship, but that's tangential here.)  We =
would

also have per-user profiles that allow for system-wide things to be
=

disabled/enabled and allows for per-user bundle installation.  Doe=
s this

make sense?

Thanks,

Andrew

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M1 was so much fun we decided to do an M1a!  That's right!  A new and 
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First off, the Eclipse Summit Europe is coming and is looking like a great 
event.
        http://eclipsesummit.org/summiteurope2007/

Last year there were a series of very cool symposia during the conference. 
 This year that set has been expanded and now occupy a full day prior to 
the main event.
        http://eclipsesummit.org/summiteurope2007/index.php?page=tuesday/

Tim Webb (Maya) and I are hosting a Provisioning  Symposium with the 
intention of following on from the Ganymede Provisioning workshop held in 
the spring.  That workshop was very successful as a context-setting and 
initial direction setting effort.  Several key connections were made and 
fruit of those connections has been born.  In the intervening months both 
the Equinox provisioning effort (now called "p2") and Maya have made 
progress and much code has been written.  This symposium brings together 
committers and interested parties to report on and evaluate current 
provisioning initiatives, sketch efficient and practical solutions to real 
provisioning problems and identify opportunities for cooperation.
 http://eclipsesummit.org/summiteurope2007/index.php?page=detail/&id=5

The symposium is structured as a relatively informal gathering where the 
focus is on discussion, not presentation.  To facilitate that discussion 
we are asking potential participants to send in a position paper 
describing their interests.  This does not have to be anything fancy or 
long.  Just outline what your use cases, interests, code, ...  See the 
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First off, the Eclipse Summit Europe
is coming and is looking like a great event.

        http://eclipsesummit.org/summiteurope2007/

Last year there were a series of very
cool symposia during the conference.  This year that set has been
expanded and now occupy a full day prior to the main event.

        http://eclipsesummit.org/summiteurope2007/index.php?page=tuesday/

Tim Webb (Maya) and I are hosting a
Provisioning  Symposium with the intention of following on from the
Ganymede Provisioning workshop held in the spring.  That workshop
was very successful as a context-setting and initial direction setting
effort.  Several key connections were made and fruit of those connections
has been born.  In the intervening months both the Equinox provisioning
effort (now called "p2") and Maya have made progress and much
code has been written.  This symposium brings together committers
and interested parties to report on and evaluate current provisioning initiatives,
sketch efficient and practical solutions to real provisioning problems
and identify opportunities for cooperation.

        http://eclipsesummit.org/summiteurope2007/index.php?page=detail/&id=5

The symposium is structured as a relatively
informal gathering where the focus is on discussion, not presentation.
 To facilitate that discussion we are asking potential participants
to send in a position paper describing their interests.  This does
not have to be anything fancy or long.  Just outline what your use
cases, interests, code, ...  See the symposium description for more
details.

        http://eclipsesummit.org/summiteurope2007/index.php?page=symposiaformat/

Hope to see you there.

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Hi all,

Looks like we are going to be changing the name of the Maya project.   
The long and short is that it turns out we do not have clear  
trademark rights to use the Maya name and we need to find an  
alternative in quick order.  I've setup a wiki page at the link below  
and would appreciate any suggestions that may come to mind -- even if  
you don't think your option is perfect, putting it up may well help  
foster brainstorming. :)

http://wiki.eclipse.org/New_Names_for_M---

I greatly appreciate your help in coming up with some viable options.

Thanks!
Tim

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I added some names to the webpage. The main criterion
was to be google unique (or almost google unique)

Some google unique names (assuming that google unique names have no
trademark):
* maylipse http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmaylipse
* mayalipse http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmayalipse
* maynstaller http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmaynstaller
* maynstall http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmaynstall
* mayastall http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmayastall
* mayaploy http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmayaploy
* maynotfail http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmaynotfail
Some (almost) google unique names:
* maydeploy http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmaydeploy
* maclipse http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmaclipse
* melipse http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmelipse
* mayayam http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmayayam=20
* mapaya http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmapaya
* maquaya http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmaquaya

Michael

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I created a bugzilla entry:
  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D204340

I think bugzilla is much better to keep track of the discussion than
email or wiki...

Michael

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OK, I added three more.  Keep them coming.

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> Hi all,
> 
> Looks like we are going to be changing the name of the Maya project.   
> The long and short is that it turns out we do not have clear  
> trademark rights to use the Maya name and we need to find an  
> alternative in quick order.  I've setup a wiki page at the link below  
> and would appreciate any suggestions that may come to mind -- even if  
> you don't think your option is perfect, putting it up may well help  
> foster brainstorming. :)
> 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/New_Names_for_M---
> 
> I greatly appreciate your help in coming up with some viable options.
> 
> Thanks!
> Tim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:03:54 +0200
> From: "Scharf, Michael" 
> Subject: RE: [provisioning-dev] Name change coming to Maya
> To: "Developer discussions for provisioning (Update
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> I added some names to the webpage. The main criterion
> was to be google unique (or almost google unique)
> 
> Some google unique names (assuming that google unique names have no
> trademark):
> * maylipse http://www.google.com/search?q=maylipse
> * mayalipse http://www.google.com/search?q=mayalipse
> * maynstaller http://www.google.com/search?q=maynstaller
> * maynstall http://www.google.com/search?q=maynstall
> * mayastall http://www.google.com/search?q=mayastall
> * mayaploy http://www.google.com/search?q=mayaploy
> * maynotfail http://www.google.com/search?q=maynotfail
> Some (almost) google unique names:
> * maydeploy http://www.google.com/search?q=maydeploy
> * maclipse http://www.google.com/search?q=maclipse
> * melipse http://www.google.com/search?q=melipse
> * mayayam http://www.google.com/search?q=mayayam 
> * mapaya http://www.google.com/search?q=mapaya
> * maquaya http://www.google.com/search?q=maquaya
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
> -- 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg 
>> [mailto:fX0bdaz/PWJBlrNu@XzQPvII7mdsgt6xg] On Behalf Of 
>> Timothy Webb
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>> Subject: [provisioning-dev] Name change coming to Maya
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Looks like we are going to be changing the name of the Maya 
>> project.   
>> The long and short is that it turns out we do not have clear  
>> trademark rights to use the Maya name and we need to find an  
>> alternative in quick order.  I've setup a wiki page at the 
>> link below  
>> and would appreciate any suggestions that may come to mind -- 
>> even if  
>> you don't think your option is perfect, putting it up may well help  
>> foster brainstorming. :)
>> 
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/New_Names_for_M---
>> 
>> I greatly appreciate your help in coming up with some viable options.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Tim
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> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:28:20 +0200
> From: "Scharf, Michael" 
> Subject: RE: [provisioning-dev] Name change coming to Maya
> To: "Developer discussions for provisioning (Update
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> I created a bugzilla entry:
>  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204340
> 
> I think bugzilla is much better to keep track of the discussion than
> email or wiki...
> 
> Michael
> 
> -- 
> Michael Scharf, Wind River
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>> Subject: [provisioning-dev] Name change coming to Maya
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Looks like we are going to be changing the name of the Maya 
>> project.   
>> The long and short is that it turns out we do not have clear  
>> trademark rights to use the Maya name and we need to find an  
>> alternative in quick order.  I've setup a wiki page at the 
>> link below  
>> and would appreciate any suggestions that may come to mind -- 
>> even if  
>> you don't think your option is perfect, putting it up may well help  
>> foster brainstorming. :)
>> 
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/New_Names_for_M---
>> 
>> I greatly appreciate your help in coming up with some viable options.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Tim
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We are officially going ahead with the name change from Maya to  
Maynstall.  I've posted a blog entry at our new blog below:

http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/maynstall/

The foundation has done a trademark search and we are good to go with  
this name.  The first step will be to change the web presence and  
then in parallel we will begin the task of changing the APIs and plug- 
ins as needed.  I am aware of at least a couple code bases built on  
top of Maya and I would like to check for any other that we should be  
made aware of.  Please add to the related bug:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204912

Thanks for your support in helping get the name out there.

Cheers,
Tim

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I am happy to see that one of the names of my little=20
brainstorming was chosen :-)

I think is a good decision to take one of the
Google unique names. Overloaded names (like "eclipse")
make it hard to find project related information.....

Michael

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Hi,

I learned that the EPP project builds those nice packages from the
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Hi Joerg,

let's see what I can do... I'll report soon about it.

Markus

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4,
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> let's see what I can do... I'll report soon about it.
>
> Markus
>
> On Monday 01 October 2007 09:43, Joerg von Frantzius wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  I learned that the EPP project builds those nice packages from the
> > Europa release train plugins. Unfortunately, there are no builds for
> > Linux x86_64, but I read in eclipse.foundation that those could be
> > created if there was demand from the community.
> >
> >  I'd be happy to download, use every day and so test a J2EE build for
> > x86_64.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  J=C3=B6rg

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Hi Markus,

thanks for creating the package! The download is coming in here at ~
10KB/s, so don't expect feedback from me too soon ;)

Regards,

Jörg

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Anyway, here is the EPP download URL: http://www.eclipse.org/epp/download.php

Please report here in this mailing list or (even better) write bug reports in 
bugzilla.

Cheers,
Markus

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let's see what I can do... I'll report soon about it.

Markus

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       Hi,

 I learned that the EPP project builds those nice packages from the
Europa release train plugins. Unfortunately, there are no builds for
Linux x86_64, but I read in eclipse.foundation that those could be
created if there was demand from the community.

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The wiki pages for p2 have been reorganized. Page titles now generally 
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[[Category:Equinox p2|Blort]]

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[[Category:Equinox p2|Blort]]

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Alright, I almost forgot to mention it: the
20071001.testing-eclipse-jee-europa-fall-linux.gtk.x86_64.tar.gz
package works fine for me.

Wouldn't it be possible to put all architectures into one package, with
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Anyway, here is the EPP download URL: http://www.eclipse.org/epp/download.php

Please report here in this mailing list or (even better) write bug reports in 
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Markus

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let's see what I can do... I'll report soon about it.

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       Hi,

 I learned that the EPP project builds those nice packages from the
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Update your staging area too - there are API changes!

Improved mapper wizard / mapper tabs documentation system

- minor text corrections
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mappers, not by mysterious rules, constants and expressions in the 
cssite java & xhtml code)
- removed obsolete tooltips on mapper tabs (should be replaced with rich 
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My apology - this mail should have been sent somewhere else!

You really don't have to update anything :-)

Filip

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I have tried out the Admin UI, but for me it was not possible to 
assembling different plugins to a new application. My idea was to create 
a new profile and integrating several IUs and than switch the current 
Admin UI RCP to this new profile or start the new profile (although such 
an action is missing).

In that way, I become aware of a missing functionality of the P2 Admin: 
At the moment the Admin UI support the user to build a new Eclipse 
profile by integrating different IU (mainly the replacement of old 
site.xml, feature.xml & plugin manifest.mf, etc).

But to start such a new profile, I think also some extra configuration 
effort is needed. E.g. my new profile has different 'product plugins' 
therefore someone must say in someway, which is the 'main plugin' and 
has to do also some extra work.

So, form a user experience perspective, I'm interested if there any 
design ideas for this issue exists (e.g. integrating a config.ini editor 
and/or wizard and/or provide a pre-configuration as an IU?).

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vision for managing installations of Wind River's products and, of
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Welcome ! This week we are running a meeting marathon
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Hey gang,

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Thanks Pascal,

I'm also in meetings this week but will try to keep an eye on what's
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Dear all
I tried downloading the p2 eclipse installer for Ganymede m7 and running it
on an amd64 ubuntu 7.10 installation. However, it just ran and did nothing.
I guess this is a bug, should i report it if so where and is there any other
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java -version
java version "1.6.0_03"
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Dear all 
I tried downloading the p2 eclipse installer for Ganymede m7 and running it on an amd64 ubuntu 7.10 installation. However, it just ran and did nothing. I guess this is a bug, should i report it if so where and is there any other information that I need to forward?

regards
gary

nb

java -version
java version "1.6.0_03"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)

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